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  • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

    @Stevepep said:

    just ask many

    Unfortunately I'm 99% sure my PCP won't unless it's a prescription from her for something else that needs BAC. I go to a large corporate like provider facility and those docs are pretty tightly bonded to the FDA and big pharma lobby.

    When I used branded GLP but got script from a telehealth (because prev PCP at the same facility shut me down), new PCP's first reaction was Oh I hope you aren't taking those illegal compounded ones. Now imagine me asking her script for H BAC to recon and research my Reta or MOTS-C! 😂

    I need to find some new age doc free of these corporate bondages!

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    @pep_researcher the wellness clinics that specialize in alternative medicine and do scans compound a bunch of these internally. Like Tirz. They also sell injectable vitamin combos. So they have it and will sell it to you to use for that reason. I just ask for 3 vials they don’t question it and get it for $7 when I check out. That may change if the price actually increased.

    If that changed for me I would order Lambda. Screw these vendors who can’t count the money fast enough, I guess it’s our fault people buy cases. Then get scared and order even more. They have 3-5 years worth of this stuff and think the expiration date is there for comedy reasons. Wait till they realize that little bit of degradation of the alcohol goes somewhere in an enclosed container it degrades the stopper and degrades the bottle. Hello impurities they are injecting into themselves and they stay in your body forever. But people want to believe what they want to believe based on some YouTube guy.

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      Peptide uses in general have skyrocketed. It isn’t just people buying 3 cases each. You live in some delusional world if you think these prices weren’t going to go up. 6 years ago when I started taking BPC-157 no one knew what peptides were. Today every person knows what peptides are and there is an insane amount of people on Reta and Tirz. 3 years ago people were having problems finding places to get samaglytide, now it is a quick search on the internet and bam you can find it anywhere. ALL of these new people taking peptides have increased the amount of BAC being need. So stop crying that somehow the few people that buy multiple cases has now ruined it… and if we want to use expired Hospira over Chinese toilet water - WE CAN!

      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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        @WisGal64 interesting I have lab grade equipment in the office for ph, tds, I can measure alcohol content as well I think, (I am not a scientist but I believe we have a meter for that) it measures brix and micro testing, I am going to order stuff and test it out.

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        @Stevepep said:

        @WisGal64 interesting I have lab grade equipment in the office for ph, tds, I can measure alcohol content as well I think, (I am not a scientist but I believe we have a meter for that) it measures brix and micro testing, I am going to order stuff and test it out.

        Now you really have me curious about your profession 🙃

        “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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          @pep_researcher the wellness clinics that specialize in alternative medicine and do scans compound a bunch of these internally. Like Tirz. They also sell injectable vitamin combos. So they have it and will sell it to you to use for that reason. I just ask for 3 vials they don’t question it and get it for $7 when I check out. That may change if the price actually increased.

          If that changed for me I would order Lambda. Screw these vendors who can’t count the money fast enough, I guess it’s our fault people buy cases. Then get scared and order even more. They have 3-5 years worth of this stuff and think the expiration date is there for comedy reasons. Wait till they realize that little bit of degradation of the alcohol goes somewhere in an enclosed container it degrades the stopper and degrades the bottle. Hello impurities they are injecting into themselves and they stay in your body forever. But people want to believe what they want to believe based on some YouTube guy.

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          @Stevepep said:

          wellness clinics

          Yeah that's my clue. Will look around for those.

          We are in an interesting era with things changing so fast. Remember Peptide Science charged exorbitant prices for in house testing COAs. They closed shop, and now we have a buffet of RUO vendors.

          Given the peptide popularity, BAC water will evolve too with better and cheaper options. But it will take up to a year or more to see that. Until then the panic and these vendor sales tactics will continue.

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          • WisGal64W WisGal64

            @Stevepep said:

            @WisGal64 interesting I have lab grade equipment in the office for ph, tds, I can measure alcohol content as well I think, (I am not a scientist but I believe we have a meter for that) it measures brix and micro testing, I am going to order stuff and test it out.

            Now you really have me curious about your profession 🙃

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            @WisGal64 Ha ha can't give away the goods.

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            • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

              @Stevepep said:

              wellness clinics

              Yeah that's my clue. Will look around for those.

              We are in an interesting era with things changing so fast. Remember Peptide Science charged exorbitant prices for in house testing COAs. They closed shop, and now we have a buffet of RUO vendors.

              Given the peptide popularity, BAC water will evolve too with better and cheaper options. But it will take up to a year or more to see that. Until then the panic and these vendor sales tactics will continue.

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              @pep_researcher Great take, I completely agree. It's disturbing how much they are price gouging, but then again, if people are lining up to be gouged, you can't really blame them. It's not something that can go away. It's simple sterile water and benzyl alcohol. It's nuts how Hospira is treated like they discovered some miracle.

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                @pep_researcher Great take, I completely agree. It's disturbing how much they are price gouging, but then again, if people are lining up to be gouged, you can't really blame them. It's not something that can go away. It's simple sterile water and benzyl alcohol. It's nuts how Hospira is treated like they discovered some miracle.

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                @Stevepep said:

                It's simple sterile water and benzyl alcohol

                Exactly 💯

                Remember the branded GLP shortage and regular PCP adamancy to write scripts gave rise to telehealths and compounding and RUO, and now they are here to stay.

                So I'm quite convinced this BAC chaos is going to evolve for the better. I'm having a popcorn moment. 🍿

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                  Peptidetest.com has stock now. Hurry before the "sell out" again

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                    Peptidetest.com has stock now. Hurry before the "sell out" again

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                    @icynemby and restock tomorrow lol.

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                      @WisGal64
                      Well that sucks..

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                      @Commander said:

                      @WisGal64
                      Well that sucks..

                      I’m just glad it wasn’t my precious ARA 😁 getting down to the last couple vials

                      “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                        #55

                        First of all peptides are amazing my body fat is down to 17.6pct and muscle mass increased (lots of lifting since my last scan) in my 50’s and the best shape of my life. I hope this inspires people. Peptides are the future.

                        Ok got off topic. Picked up 3 bottles of Hospira for $8.10 I said that’s a mistake I pay $7. The response was the price was increased. Don’t get me wrong I am happy I can buy it for $8.10 but if that ever gets cut off Lamdba and others will get my business

                        So we know these pricks triple the price they pay for it which was $4,80 if they are ordering by the pallet. It is probably a 20 pct price increase so they will pay around $6. I fully expect the new price to be $20 ish per bottle, maybe $18.99.

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                          Guess I'll grab a couple of bottles, and maybe a Bac NaCl for Mots-c.

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                            Guess I'll grab a couple of bottles, and maybe a Bac NaCl for Mots-c.

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                            @Atlas based on that it’s a good move. It’s a balancing act even with the price increase and this is just my opinion I wouldn’t over order. I don’t see availability becoming the issue and I don’t think anyone should go a couple of months beyond the expiration date. That is foolish and unnecessary also imo

                            Also going to start Mots_C next cycle is thais the best place to get NACL? That's something I have never ordered. If anyoone knows please let me know

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                              What's wild is bacteriostaticwater.com went from $16.95 per vial to $19.99 yesterday. Now today, it's $22.85

                              So crazy.

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                                What's wild is bacteriostaticwater.com went from $16.95 per vial to $19.99 yesterday. Now today, it's $22.85

                                So crazy.

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                                @SoySebastian
                                Because where they are buying it increased the price.
                                But lets be honest, most people are saying they don’t go through 1 30ml a month. So again, even if it is $10 more, at only 1 a month, does thst even matter. And for anyone that says that $10 a month is too much for them -They shouldn’t be buying peptides.

                                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                  @SoySebastian
                                  Because where they are buying it increased the price.
                                  But lets be honest, most people are saying they don’t go through 1 30ml a month. So again, even if it is $10 more, at only 1 a month, does thst even matter. And for anyone that says that $10 a month is too much for them -They shouldn’t be buying peptides.

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                                  @Commander I mean, considering a year ago when I first got into peptides, I paid $30 for one vial and was fine with it then lmao. Obviously, I know better now.

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                                    This will piss you guys off. So I apologize in advance. It is information only to provide additional context on what a scam this situation is. We have a contract with a medical supply company (favorable terms based on the overall volume of supplies we purchase annually) and currently the price is about $60 for a case of 25 of H bac. The math ain't mathing. Someone is making a tidy sum. 10x markup over wholesale, at least. Viva la revolution! Don't shoot the messenger.

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                                      This will piss you guys off. So I apologize in advance. It is information only to provide additional context on what a scam this situation is. We have a contract with a medical supply company (favorable terms based on the overall volume of supplies we purchase annually) and currently the price is about $60 for a case of 25 of H bac. The math ain't mathing. Someone is making a tidy sum. 10x markup over wholesale, at least. Viva la revolution! Don't shoot the messenger.

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                                      @Stones67 That's your clue to launch a website of your own. You don't need to sell absolutely at $3, just enough to make those other 10x markup ones look bad.

                                      Like say $6 per bottle and that will give you 100% margin. 😁

                                      One friendly vendor actually told me this when I said I am bored of my regular tech industry job. 😂

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                                        @Commander
                                        if you look at peptide protocols, you'll see recommendation for NaCl/CH3 to be used instead of regular BAC. I don't know if this is true but I got a couple of bottles from another vendor the other day.

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                                        • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                                          @Stones67 That's your clue to launch a website of your own. You don't need to sell absolutely at $3, just enough to make those other 10x markup ones look bad.

                                          Like say $6 per bottle and that will give you 100% margin. 😁

                                          One friendly vendor actually told me this when I said I am bored of my regular tech industry job. 😂

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                                          @pep_researcher
                                          Nifty little side gig you're proposing! Might even cash in enough to offset this expensive habit. LOL. But, alas, I fear my pseudo-criminal behavior would be detected by the bean counters and/or supply chain director, who would eventually notice we are suddenly ordering a bunch of stuff we've used very little of before. There would be questions! Oh well.

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