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  • J JtCjEfF

    @Eleanor I dont see how you can unfortunately. This is one of the downsides to this grey market. The privileges we normally have in a normally regulated retail market dont apply. This is a "handshake deal" that is only as good as a persons word. We have no other recourse, and as we all know it is not exclusive to the vendors now off your list.

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    @JtCjEfF I disagree with you.

    Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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    • J JtCjEfF

      @Eleanor I dont see how you can unfortunately. This is one of the downsides to this grey market. The privileges we normally have in a normally regulated retail market dont apply. This is a "handshake deal" that is only as good as a persons word. We have no other recourse, and as we all know it is not exclusive to the vendors now off your list.

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      @JtCjEfF ummm you just contact the cc company and make a claim because you didn’t get what you paid for. Crush is not a grey market supplier or the prices would be far less. The real issue is now I have to prove to them I used hospital if I don’t pay 30pct more to purchase it from them. You do get where this is going it’s really not that hard. This guy is all all about marketing. Drops, sales, presales, inventory running out, buy my bac from me. I am out there are too many good vendors than to mess with this

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      • vpepsV vpeps

        @Stevepep $20 is a high price for that, but an average vendor of those I check sells it for $30.

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        @vpeptides easy peasy go to peptidetests and buy it for $16 and get a discount when you order more. The dude is all about marketing. He can’t stock inventory so he gets the cash from his drop, presale, sale and then regurgitates the same stuff over and over and now this is just the same if you have a problem and didn’t buy your hospira from me prove it. It’s pretty easy to follow along

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        • E Eleanor

          @vpeptides Does Ion have the statement about Pfizer on their site? Are you being moronic on purpose or just no stones to discuss the trap(s) being presented? You figure it out by your lonesome...Geez.

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          @Eleanor I see you don't want to understand what I say. I leave you with your tantrum into space, enjoy.

          attentiion is all you need

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            @vpeptides easy peasy go to peptidetests and buy it for $16 and get a discount when you order more. The dude is all about marketing. He can’t stock inventory so he gets the cash from his drop, presale, sale and then regurgitates the same stuff over and over and now this is just the same if you have a problem and didn’t buy your hospira from me prove it. It’s pretty easy to follow along

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            @Stevepep This guy sells cheap, that's why you choose him (ok, maybe not you personally but many). Now you complain you don't get a royal first class service, 90-day return no questions asked, a nice girl on 24-hour service line? There is a cost for everything, it's an open market. You prefer all the bells and whistles, then don't choose a discount provider. No need for drama. Does anybody have issues with the quality of his products? I understand his needs to defend the business from idiots on the other end of the line and keep the cost low.

            By the way, it's not the only disclaimer he has on his site, he also mentions it is not for human consumption, doesn't it bother you the same way? Do you see the point?

            attentiion is all you need

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            • vpepsV vpeps

              @Stevepep This guy sells cheap, that's why you choose him (ok, maybe not you personally but many). Now you complain you don't get a royal first class service, 90-day return no questions asked, a nice girl on 24-hour service line? There is a cost for everything, it's an open market. You prefer all the bells and whistles, then don't choose a discount provider. No need for drama. Does anybody have issues with the quality of his products? I understand his needs to defend the business from idiots on the other end of the line and keep the cost low.

              By the way, it's not the only disclaimer he has on his site, he also mentions it is not for human consumption, doesn't it bother you the same way? Do you see the point?

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              @vpeptides wow I order from Nexaph for less and they actually have inventory all the time. I liked Crush and have ordered from them. But their prices on drops, sales, presales, new this and that, build your own nonsense, are not sales when you do the math. And it’s not ILS doing the testing who has had issues. They prey on a marketing strategy that when you do the math makes no sense. I always keep an open mind I am done with Crush after 2 grand I am watching studz now. This guy sounds like no BS and he wants to build a business and listens to his client base. Let’s wait for the vanguard testing first

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              • E Eleanor

                If you think the message hasn't gotten around, think again.
                Question: How does a researcher PROVE they used Pfizer?

                Careful Folks. I'm not dealing with this, move to the next vendor.

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                @Eleanor I suppose you could make a video of the reconstitution the first times you are using the product showing the peptides got Pfizer'd.

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                  @Eleanor I suppose you could make a video of the reconstitution the first times you are using the product showing the peptides got Pfizer'd.

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                  @bfuller imagine having to video tape every time you reconstitute a peptide that would be a large pct of my life lol

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                    I had one vial of Wolverine that I purchased in a kit from Nexaph reconstitute cloudy. I did 3 vials and only one was cloudy. I emailed them the picture and they asked me what I used and I said it was from Lambda. They immediately credited me for the one vial, no additional comments.

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                      @vpeptides Oh, I understand exactly what you're saying, I disagree with it. The ONLY way to get vendors in line with what you want is to DENY THEM BUSINESS until they DO give you and the community what's wanted. It's called a BOYCOTT. Simple! No rant here. Plenty of other fish in the sea. You want to lay down for them, it's up to you but it's a stupid thing to do.

                      With the statement on their site (important to note), they can always come up with a reason not to cooperate with you and when other vendors see it works, they'll do it too. Count on it.

                      BOYCOTT: It works every time.

                      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                      • J jackieee

                        I had one vial of Wolverine that I purchased in a kit from Nexaph reconstitute cloudy. I did 3 vials and only one was cloudy. I emailed them the picture and they asked me what I used and I said it was from Lambda. They immediately credited me for the one vial, no additional comments.

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                        @jackiee Cain is amazing. He gets it we need more like him. Crush is fine the product I have no issues with never had an issue there but it’s everything else the whole marketing BS, inventory completely blows and the prices aren’t even that good just not worth the effort imo

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                          @bfuller imagine having to video tape every time you reconstitute a peptide that would be a large pct of my life lol

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                          @Stevepep Yes but the learning curve would be so sharp it would just become routine. 🤡

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                            @Stevepep Yes but the learning curve would be so sharp it would just become routine. 🤡

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                            @bfuller that may be the post of the year my friend

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                              Just to give a fair perspective of a different vendor. I ordered 6 vials of cjc/ipa from ngpeptides/NextGen. All reconstituted either cloudy or sludge of whatever. They had the same policy. They asked for pictures of the vials effected and pictures of the Hospira I used and didn't hesitate to issue the refund immediately. I did not purchase any bac from them. A simple picture was proof enough for them.

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                              • vpepsV vpeps

                                @Eleanor I complained about TA-1 that didn't dissolve to Ion. They asked immediately what solvent I used. I said Hospira. They just believed me. I wonder if I said "Uncle Wang Toilet Water" would they give me a credit?

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                                @vpeptides dont sleep on the Wang

                                "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                • E Eleanor

                                  I repeat the question: HOW DOES A RESEARCHER PROVE THEY USED PFIZER?
                                  So now, Crush, Flawless & Glow Ams (Lawless sister) is now off my list.

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                                  @Eleanor did you have a vial cloud and did they ask you to prove it?

                                  "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                    @Eleanor did you have a vial cloud and did they ask you to prove it?

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                                    @Randy No Sir, not yet. As you know, I've had one smashed (not by same vendor), but that was replaced, thankfully to the vendors fair business practice; still not padded worth crap but got lucky it arrived whole. It was an event that was pretty much undeniable.

                                    I am putting forth a scenario for people to think about. IMO, placing the statement on their site COULD give them a path to deny most any challenges by their customers that might occur. Realizing vendors also have challenges with customers, there are ways around that; which @mj227 unfortunately experienced personally via Zelle.

                                    In short, I don't like it, to me it's a signal of trouble ahead, more for the customer than the vendor and I'm BOYCOTTING those vendors who place such a statement on their site.

                                    Again, the question is, how do you prove to the vendor that you used Pfizer to reconstitute? Effectively, the customer cannot prove it, UNLESS, the customer buys it from that same vendor. No thanks! I've got plenty already in storage. I'm not getting locked into that BS.

                                    Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                      Just to give a fair perspective of a different vendor. I ordered 6 vials of cjc/ipa from ngpeptides/NextGen. All reconstituted either cloudy or sludge of whatever. They had the same policy. They asked for pictures of the vials effected and pictures of the Hospira I used and didn't hesitate to issue the refund immediately. I did not purchase any bac from them. A simple picture was proof enough for them.

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                                      @BeeKind said:

                                      They had the same policy.

                                      I'm happy to hear you were well treated, but that might not be the case with some vendors in the future.

                                      I think everyone has a right to buy or not buy from whomever they want, including me.

                                      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                          @BeeKind said:

                                          They had the same policy.

                                          I'm happy to hear you were well treated, but that might not be the case with some vendors in the future.

                                          I think everyone has a right to buy or not buy from whomever they want, including me.

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