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  • BeeKindB BeeKind

    My cat/rat is struggling with energy and I'm interested in NAD+ but I'm finding dosing protocols all over the place. Can someone point me in the direction to help my research?
    Is Mots-c or something else better?

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    @BeeKind
    How was your experience with NAD+?

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      @BeeKind
      How was your experience with NAD+?

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      @mmp Im actually starting Nad+ this coming Monday. I did a cycle of Mots-c and didn't realize how well it worked until now a few weeks later and my energy levels are dropping again so Im going to give the Nad+ a try that I just got from Nexaph and I'll update soon!

      Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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      • BeeKindB BeeKind

        @mmp Im actually starting Nad+ this coming Monday. I did a cycle of Mots-c and didn't realize how well it worked until now a few weeks later and my energy levels are dropping again so Im going to give the Nad+ a try that I just got from Nexaph and I'll update soon!

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        @BeeKind I swear by NAD. Started it because I had such fatigue the day after Reta. It made me functional instead of in bed. I think I got used to the Reta, but the NAD was so great I haven't stopped! I do use BACNaCl for reconstitution to reduce ISR.

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          @BeeKind I swear by NAD. Started it because I had such fatigue the day after Reta. It made me functional instead of in bed. I think I got used to the Reta, but the NAD was so great I haven't stopped! I do use BACNaCl for reconstitution to reduce ISR.

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          @SkepticJen does that work for buffered Nad?

          Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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          • BeeKindB BeeKind

            @SkepticJen does that work for buffered Nad?

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            @BeeKind There was a lot of discussion here but I went ahead and tried it and I haven't had any vials cloud up. I did with my Reta, so that and copper I use standard for. It reduced the sting noticeably and I'm a big wimp, so it was definitely worth losing a vial if it had gone the other way!

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              What about reconstituted NAD+ storage?
              Buffered/neutral NAD+ + BAC water ~5–7 days
              Acidic NAD+ + BAC water ~14 days
              Did/Will you follow this?

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              • mmpM mmp

                What about reconstituted NAD+ storage?
                Buffered/neutral NAD+ + BAC water ~5–7 days
                Acidic NAD+ + BAC water ~14 days
                Did/Will you follow this?

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                @mmp I don't worry too much about how long it's in the fridge in my pen. I mostly use them up relatively quickly, but from what I've read, even if it starts to degrade it's pretty slight after 30 days. Definitely wouldn't be tossing anything after a week or 2. And NAD is certainly one you can tell if it's working or not.

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                  Those estimates seem low and from what I have read it is predicated on what the buffer is. I agree with @skepticjen although I have not gone past 21 days.

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                    @mmp I don't worry too much about how long it's in the fridge in my pen. I mostly use them up relatively quickly, but from what I've read, even if it starts to degrade it's pretty slight after 30 days. Definitely wouldn't be tossing anything after a week or 2. And NAD is certainly one you can tell if it's working or not.

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                    @SkepticJen

                    I do 2 days 50mg NAD+, 1 day 1,5-2mg MOTS-C almost 2 weeks - feel nothing 😞
                    Peps from EZpeptides

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                    • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

                      I've titrated up to 250mgx3 a week - felt nothing
                      I've tried 100mgx7 a week - nada
                      Back to 250m... still nothing!
                      At this point I'm just doing 100x3 a week because it's SUPPOSED to have other effects than energy.

                      Done the Mots, no energy spikes there either, I dunno, the sleep peps don't work on me either. It's my super power... I just need to figure out a way to fight crime with it then I can wear a cape and underwear on the outside without people thinking I'm strange.

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                      @Stan-Douglas gosh I can SO relate to this. Same same!

                      Comfort is the worst addiction - Marcus Aurelius

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                      • mmpM mmp

                        @SkepticJen

                        I do 2 days 50mg NAD+, 1 day 1,5-2mg MOTS-C almost 2 weeks - feel nothing 😞
                        Peps from EZpeptides

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                        @mmp said:

                        @SkepticJen

                        I do 2 days 50mg NAD+, 1 day 1,5-2mg MOTS-C almost 2 weeks - feel nothing 😞
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                        Are you even getting the flush/rush from the NAD+ when you inject? The first couple of 50mg+ doses of NAD+ for me and anything over 100MG and I definitely get a rush similar to vitamin B overdose(for lack of a better description.)

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                          @mmp said:

                          @SkepticJen

                          I do 2 days 50mg NAD+, 1 day 1,5-2mg MOTS-C almost 2 weeks - feel nothing 😞
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                          Are you even getting the flush/rush from the NAD+ when you inject? The first couple of 50mg+ doses of NAD+ for me and anything over 100MG and I definitely get a rush similar to vitamin B overdose(for lack of a better description.)

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                          @ResearchCat
                          nothing
                          ...but actually it's a good thing, I have no desire to buy more πŸ˜ƒ

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                            Strange.

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                              I do 100mg of NAD+ 3x a week and I get that blech belly/chest feeling for 15-20 minutes or so soon after injecting.

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                                @SkepticJen

                                I do 2 days 50mg NAD+, 1 day 1,5-2mg MOTS-C almost 2 weeks - feel nothing 😞
                                Peps from EZpeptides

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                                @mmp said:

                                @SkepticJen

                                I do 2 days 50mg NAD+, 1 day 1,5-2mg MOTS-C almost 2 weeks - feel nothing 😞
                                Peps from EZpeptides

                                You might have not been at a therapeutic dose for either. I have been dosing MotsC 3mg 4 days a week on training days and NAD at 100mg 3 to 4 days a week. This is part of a 90 day protocol. I have absolutely felt a difference in training and overall energy.

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                                  @mmp said:

                                  @SkepticJen

                                  I do 2 days 50mg NAD+, 1 day 1,5-2mg MOTS-C almost 2 weeks - feel nothing 😞
                                  Peps from EZpeptides

                                  You might have not been at a therapeutic dose for either. I have been dosing MotsC 3mg 4 days a week on training days and NAD at 100mg 3 to 4 days a week. This is part of a 90 day protocol. I have absolutely felt a difference in training and overall energy.

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                                  @Mydogdaryl423
                                  I am 130lb.
                                  I will try 100mg NAD. For MOTS-C I'm a bit worried to inj more.

                                  I think I have sufficient endogenous production to notice any difference.

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                                  • mmpM mmp

                                    @Mydogdaryl423
                                    I am 130lb.
                                    I will try 100mg NAD. For MOTS-C I'm a bit worried to inj more.

                                    I think I have sufficient endogenous production to notice any difference.

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                                    @mmp said:

                                    @Mydogdaryl423
                                    I am 130lb.
                                    I will try 100mg NAD. For MOTS-C I'm a bit worried to inj more.

                                    I think I have sufficient endogenous production to notice any difference.

                                    I’m 118 lb, 5’6”. I am using 80mg NAD+ three times per week. I started at 40mg, then 60 and now I am at 80. I feel pretty good at that dose.

                                    For MOTS-c I am using 25mg 4-5 times per week, depending on my schedule.

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                                      @mmp said:

                                      @Mydogdaryl423
                                      I am 130lb.
                                      I will try 100mg NAD. For MOTS-C I'm a bit worried to inj more.

                                      I think I have sufficient endogenous production to notice any difference.

                                      I’m 118 lb, 5’6”. I am using 80mg NAD+ three times per week. I started at 40mg, then 60 and now I am at 80. I feel pretty good at that dose.

                                      For MOTS-c I am using 25mg 4-5 times per week, depending on my schedule.

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                                      @jackiee

                                      25mg in one injection? 😡

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                                        Typo! 2.5mg! I’m working and was hurrying!

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