StudzPeptides wants to upgrade testing
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After all the discussions on this forum, why did @studzpeptides choose Freedom labs of all things? I see Nov 1 Freedom COA on SP-R3.
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@member-sybe6 Majority, if not all peps are from overseas markets.
What I think matters after knowing that, is which vendor handles these products to your liking and comfort.
Studz is definitely worth looking into.
feel free to join the discord and check out testimonials and the community in general.
Happy Researching
@member-sybe6 Majority, if not all peps are from overseas markets.
What I think matters after knowing that, is which vendor handles these products to your liking and comfort.
Studz is definitely worth looking into.
feel free to join the discord and check out testimonials and the community in general.
Happy Researching
Ive ordered from @studzpeptides recently and the product is received has been great far. And the customer service has been Great Also. Answered all questions I had quickly. Would have ordered more during the halloween sale but the R3 30mg wasnt back from testing. 7x Coa from freedom is back now and product is for sale on the site. Ill make another order @studzpeptides , during your next sale!! I agree with @juliano546 when he said check em out.
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@member-sybe6 Majority, if not all peps are from overseas markets.
What I think matters after knowing that, is which vendor handles these products to your liking and comfort.
Studz is definitely worth looking into.
feel free to join the discord and check out testimonials and the community in general.
Happy Researching
Ive ordered from @studzpeptides recently and the product is received has been great far. And the customer service has been Great Also. Answered all questions I had quickly. Would have ordered more during the halloween sale but the R3 30mg wasnt back from testing. 7x Coa from freedom is back now and product is for sale on the site. Ill make another order @studzpeptides , during your next sale!! I agree with @juliano546 when he said check em out.
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After all the discussions on this forum, why did @studzpeptides choose Freedom labs of all things? I see Nov 1 Freedom COA on SP-R3.
@pep_researcher they meant to say downgrade their testing. This is how you lose credibility quick. I have referred a bunch of people to them but this is a real smack in the face
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After all the discussions on this forum, why did @studzpeptides choose Freedom labs of all things? I see Nov 1 Freedom COA on SP-R3.
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@brentlong not sure how long you have been on here but pointing to a freedom COA is about as bad as it gets. Completely untrustworthy
@brentlong not sure how long you have been on here but pointing to a freedom COA is about as bad as it gets. Completely untrustworthy
@stevepep I guess we all have our own opinions. Me personally, I dont see a prob. @studzpeptides has been good to me and im not holding it against those guys!!! Just stating my thoughts. And yes I've read all the complaints on here about Freedom!!! Have a Great day!!
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@pep_researcher they meant to say downgrade their testing. This is how you lose credibility quick. I have referred a bunch of people to them but this is a real smack in the face
@Stevepep We've talked here before about why moving away from a lab like Vanguard is a tough call, and the concerns you all raised are completely fair.
That said, a lot of you were also critical of Vanguard when they made their mistake on the Eloralintide testing. It's a good reminder that no lab is 100% perfect or reliable.
Everyone has their preferred lab, and we respect that. But on the one batch we sent them, it took Vanguard 19 business days to deliver our full 7x COA. We wanted it to work, and we talked it through with them directly, but between the testing time and how long it took to go from error to fix, we just can't run our releases on that timeline.
We have 2 COAs from Vanguard, the burn blend capsules, and our domestic glutathione, that they (months ago), placed under the exact same lab ID, we have brought this up, due to multiple customer complaints, and still nothing has been changed or adjusted, and again the first of the 2 COAs, date back to 8/17
While I understand and support you guys making the decision to not buy from us due to testing, although these are all qualified labs, the experiences we have had on top of testing times and lack of fixes are just a combination of things that make it horrible to deal with on our end, and when things like this happen, how do we know things aren't being mistranslated or mis-typed etc
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@brentlong not sure how long you have been on here but pointing to a freedom COA is about as bad as it gets. Completely untrustworthy
@stevepep I guess we all have our own opinions. Me personally, I dont see a prob. @studzpeptides has been good to me and im not holding it against those guys!!! Just stating my thoughts. And yes I've read all the complaints on here about Freedom!!! Have a Great day!!
@brentlong Thank you Brent, we appreciate you!
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@Stevepep We've talked here before about why moving away from a lab like Vanguard is a tough call, and the concerns you all raised are completely fair.
That said, a lot of you were also critical of Vanguard when they made their mistake on the Eloralintide testing. It's a good reminder that no lab is 100% perfect or reliable.
Everyone has their preferred lab, and we respect that. But on the one batch we sent them, it took Vanguard 19 business days to deliver our full 7x COA. We wanted it to work, and we talked it through with them directly, but between the testing time and how long it took to go from error to fix, we just can't run our releases on that timeline.
We have 2 COAs from Vanguard, the burn blend capsules, and our domestic glutathione, that they (months ago), placed under the exact same lab ID, we have brought this up, due to multiple customer complaints, and still nothing has been changed or adjusted, and again the first of the 2 COAs, date back to 8/17
While I understand and support you guys making the decision to not buy from us due to testing, although these are all qualified labs, the experiences we have had on top of testing times and lack of fixes are just a combination of things that make it horrible to deal with on our end, and when things like this happen, how do we know things aren't being mistranslated or mis-typed etc
@StudzPeptides Appreciate the answer. I’d have done the same. Some guys on here seem to forget that you’re running a business.
I did talk to Marcus Krause last week and they are interested in offering competitive (or better) pricing for batch samples of three that cover the important tests, PPID, Endo and Sterility. Their turn around time isn’t great, usually 7 to 10 business days, but that could be negotiated. Just a thought to have more than one lab on the hook for your testing. -
@StudzPeptides Appreciate the answer. I’d have done the same. Some guys on here seem to forget that you’re running a business.
I did talk to Marcus Krause last week and they are interested in offering competitive (or better) pricing for batch samples of three that cover the important tests, PPID, Endo and Sterility. Their turn around time isn’t great, usually 7 to 10 business days, but that could be negotiated. Just a thought to have more than one lab on the hook for your testing.@mikebricker Thank you boss man, I appreciate the understanding and help, we have no problem looking on other places for testing at all
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@brentlong not sure how long you have been on here but pointing to a freedom COA is about as bad as it gets. Completely untrustworthy
@stevepep I guess we all have our own opinions. Me personally, I dont see a prob. @studzpeptides has been good to me and im not holding it against those guys!!! Just stating my thoughts. And yes I've read all the complaints on here about Freedom!!! Have a Great day!!
@brentlong of course everyone has the information at hand on here and makes their decisions, sticks their head in the sand or whatever. I liked studz and referred a bunch of people to them. I too make decisions and I have no faith in freedom because I I have the information at hand and they are completely unreliable so I have told the people in my circle to not order from studz anymore. They want to race to the bottom that’s up to them. I have said many times we are all consenting adults and make our own choices but we have no one to blame but ourselves if we ignore the information and move ahead anyway.
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@StudzPeptides Appreciate the answer. I’d have done the same. Some guys on here seem to forget that you’re running a business.
I did talk to Marcus Krause last week and they are interested in offering competitive (or better) pricing for batch samples of three that cover the important tests, PPID, Endo and Sterility. Their turn around time isn’t great, usually 7 to 10 business days, but that could be negotiated. Just a thought to have more than one lab on the hook for your testing.@mikebricker isn’t that the point if you a running a peptide business where testing is everything you don’t go with a lab that everyone in the industry knows is unreliable. Even the group buys are saying no way to freedom. All the labs have issues but they are on another level of incompetence.
I took your word on Krause and sent in a vial that was received by them last Monday. The studz guys have an issue waiting on vanguard wait until they have to deal with the handwritten PDF paperwork for Krause and the wait. I am fine with it but for a business that would be a big pain in the ass. We will have results from them eventually to compare to Janoshik and vanguard through a group buy where I sent in vials from the same batch. As long as the results are solid they are a bargain and I will use them for sure.
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@mikebricker isn’t that the point if you a running a peptide business where testing is everything you don’t go with a lab that everyone in the industry knows is unreliable. Even the group buys are saying no way to freedom. All the labs have issues but they are on another level of incompetence.
I took your word on Krause and sent in a vial that was received by them last Monday. The studz guys have an issue waiting on vanguard wait until they have to deal with the handwritten PDF paperwork for Krause and the wait. I am fine with it but for a business that would be a big pain in the ass. We will have results from them eventually to compare to Janoshik and vanguard through a group buy where I sent in vials from the same batch. As long as the results are solid they are a bargain and I will use them for sure.
@Stevepep I agree - because if you know the timelines you're experiencing with the labs that people trust then you should plan and schedule your releases accordingly. It's not a difficult concept. BUT companies care about profit over people 100% of the time.
As you stated we are consenting adults, I will not be using @studzpeptides because they are choosing the easy/cheap route. I was considering them but they have made their choice. -
@Stevepep We've talked here before about why moving away from a lab like Vanguard is a tough call, and the concerns you all raised are completely fair.
That said, a lot of you were also critical of Vanguard when they made their mistake on the Eloralintide testing. It's a good reminder that no lab is 100% perfect or reliable.
Everyone has their preferred lab, and we respect that. But on the one batch we sent them, it took Vanguard 19 business days to deliver our full 7x COA. We wanted it to work, and we talked it through with them directly, but between the testing time and how long it took to go from error to fix, we just can't run our releases on that timeline.
We have 2 COAs from Vanguard, the burn blend capsules, and our domestic glutathione, that they (months ago), placed under the exact same lab ID, we have brought this up, due to multiple customer complaints, and still nothing has been changed or adjusted, and again the first of the 2 COAs, date back to 8/17
While I understand and support you guys making the decision to not buy from us due to testing, although these are all qualified labs, the experiences we have had on top of testing times and lack of fixes are just a combination of things that make it horrible to deal with on our end, and when things like this happen, how do we know things aren't being mistranslated or mis-typed etc
the one batch we sent them, it took Vanguard 19 business days to deliver our full 7x COA
That's actually a standard given that the USP 71 sterility test itself is a 14 day test. You wouldn't expect a pregnant woman to deliver a baby in 6 months instead of 9, right? Peptide testing is the same.
Also it's ironic that a business wants to go to a FAST lab with quick COAs and then say trust us, AFTER surveying here for options.
Some vendors actually moved AWAY from Freedom probably seeing the blogs and discussions here.
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@Stevepep I agree - because if you know the timelines you're experiencing with the labs that people trust then you should plan and schedule your releases accordingly. It's not a difficult concept. BUT companies care about profit over people 100% of the time.
As you stated we are consenting adults, I will not be using @studzpeptides because they are choosing the easy/cheap route. I was considering them but they have made their choice. -
hey @studzpeptides and any other vendor who "cares" or "wants to know what the public wants" here's a little refresher. It's kind of simple stuff, start from the beginning.
WE JUST WANT IT TO BE GOOD and not a rip off, we know it costs more to be thorough we aren't dollar bin shopping here.
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hey @studzpeptides and any other vendor who "cares" or "wants to know what the public wants" here's a little refresher. It's kind of simple stuff, start from the beginning.
WE JUST WANT IT TO BE GOOD and not a rip off, we know it costs more to be thorough we aren't dollar bin shopping here.
@BeeKind I just am curious as to where you guys are getting the "cheap" route from, because 7x testing from both vanguard and freedom diagnostics is actually almost identical in price, with freedom coming in slightly higher, as I have said I understand and respect where you guys are coming from,
As far as the 14 day timeline on sterility, yes you are correct, that's 14 total days, not business days, the 19 business days of time it took actually equated to approximately 28 actual days
I am not ruling out vanguard in its entirety at all, and by no means am I ignoring your feedback, I am trying to be transparent in what we are trying to do at both quality and being able to keep things stocked
We don't operate at margins that most other companies that can plan a month ahead in terms of product, and again, there is no "cheap" in our testing cost, a 7x test from freedom cost $750 per test, and I am not asking you guys to take a step-back on your opinion, but asking you to understand where we are coming from
Whether or not you guys like freedom, does not discredit the fact they are a qualified lab, and as we have seen with the Eloralintide fiasco, ALL labs are just people that state they are qualified and can and will mess up simply
Again if you choose to move away from us until we can manage to test with Vanguard full time, I respect your decision and at the end of the day I can't do anything to convince, or would want to, you are all your own researchers, at the end of the day we are doing what we can to keep things, safe, available, and affordable
There are negative reports from EVERY single lab, whether or not we want to take it to heart and apply it is up to each individual person, I have talked to countless owners and price tools that completely disregard Vanguard as a high-end lab establishment, while others love, and other who live and die by Freedom, at the end of the day we are doing what we can
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@BeeKind I just am curious as to where you guys are getting the "cheap" route from, because 7x testing from both vanguard and freedom diagnostics is actually almost identical in price, with freedom coming in slightly higher, as I have said I understand and respect where you guys are coming from,
As far as the 14 day timeline on sterility, yes you are correct, that's 14 total days, not business days, the 19 business days of time it took actually equated to approximately 28 actual days
I am not ruling out vanguard in its entirety at all, and by no means am I ignoring your feedback, I am trying to be transparent in what we are trying to do at both quality and being able to keep things stocked
We don't operate at margins that most other companies that can plan a month ahead in terms of product, and again, there is no "cheap" in our testing cost, a 7x test from freedom cost $750 per test, and I am not asking you guys to take a step-back on your opinion, but asking you to understand where we are coming from
Whether or not you guys like freedom, does not discredit the fact they are a qualified lab, and as we have seen with the Eloralintide fiasco, ALL labs are just people that state they are qualified and can and will mess up simply
Again if you choose to move away from us until we can manage to test with Vanguard full time, I respect your decision and at the end of the day I can't do anything to convince, or would want to, you are all your own researchers, at the end of the day we are doing what we can to keep things, safe, available, and affordable
There are negative reports from EVERY single lab, whether or not we want to take it to heart and apply it is up to each individual person, I have talked to countless owners and price tools that completely disregard Vanguard as a high-end lab establishment, while others love, and other who live and die by Freedom, at the end of the day we are doing what we can
@StudzPeptides I say cheap because you lack patience and planning - you went with a faster option to turn a profit quicker. And your profit margins are still padded so you can afford to test thoroughly and as stated people know that good quality testing takes time and costs money. Those that understand that, understand pricing trickles down. We're not idiots.
You came here and asked what we wanted, seemed like you genuinely card but you decided to go the cheap/fast route. -
@StudzPeptides I say cheap because you lack patience and planning - you went with a faster option to turn a profit quicker. And your profit margins are still padded so you can afford to test thoroughly and as stated people know that good quality testing takes time and costs money. Those that understand that, understand pricing trickles down. We're not idiots.
You came here and asked what we wanted, seemed like you genuinely card but you decided to go the cheap/fast route.@BeeKind Bee it has nothing to do with planning or patience, it has to due with margins, we run a low margin business, to keep things affordable, if we were running prices like most other places we would have absolutely no difficulty ordering a month ahead of time, but no lab regardless of that should take a month to release a COA
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@BeeKind I just am curious as to where you guys are getting the "cheap" route from, because 7x testing from both vanguard and freedom diagnostics is actually almost identical in price, with freedom coming in slightly higher, as I have said I understand and respect where you guys are coming from,
As far as the 14 day timeline on sterility, yes you are correct, that's 14 total days, not business days, the 19 business days of time it took actually equated to approximately 28 actual days
I am not ruling out vanguard in its entirety at all, and by no means am I ignoring your feedback, I am trying to be transparent in what we are trying to do at both quality and being able to keep things stocked
We don't operate at margins that most other companies that can plan a month ahead in terms of product, and again, there is no "cheap" in our testing cost, a 7x test from freedom cost $750 per test, and I am not asking you guys to take a step-back on your opinion, but asking you to understand where we are coming from
Whether or not you guys like freedom, does not discredit the fact they are a qualified lab, and as we have seen with the Eloralintide fiasco, ALL labs are just people that state they are qualified and can and will mess up simply
Again if you choose to move away from us until we can manage to test with Vanguard full time, I respect your decision and at the end of the day I can't do anything to convince, or would want to, you are all your own researchers, at the end of the day we are doing what we can to keep things, safe, available, and affordable
There are negative reports from EVERY single lab, whether or not we want to take it to heart and apply it is up to each individual person, I have talked to countless owners and price tools that completely disregard Vanguard as a high-end lab establishment, while others love, and other who live and die by Freedom, at the end of the day we are doing what we can
@StudzPeptides Good response. I wouldn’t overplay the opinions of a few. As you said, a qualified lab is what buyers are looking for, and 99% of those don’t really care or even consider which lab provided the testing, as long as it passes.
I for one think anything above PPID, Endo and Sterility is overkill. And to be honest, sterility sounds good but how many times have we seen that fail? I look at purity, fill, and Endo when I review a vial I intend to buy. I don’t look at heavy metals….
but I do love Metallica.
From a business and QA perspective I think you’re doing the right thing. Keep up the good work.
Just think, if you used Vanguard you could say your vials were filled 50% higher than label amount.
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