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SS-31 (Elamipretide) — Research Dosing Protocol

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    ResearchCat
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    Yeah, I think most places have pulled SS, but some of the other items under scrutiny are still there with renames and only available if you’re logged in. I try not to give the game away….

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      You can use all the bad words here. Retatrutide, Tirzepatide.

      Im betting reta gets pulled by most once the FDA gives approval

      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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      • RandyR Randy

        You can use all the bad words here. Retatrutide, Tirzepatide.

        Im betting reta gets pulled by most once the FDA gives approval

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        beachfun
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        @Randy So stock up? Is putting the vials in the freezer a bad idea? I moved my Big Boy case to the refrigerator. I know you stated a dark closet is good for a year.
        Also, noticed SS-31 has changed its name to MTT-31

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          Randy
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          I would if its something you like. But this rule goes for all things you like.

          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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            ResearchCat
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            I am stocking up as best I can to run a cycle later this year. I won’t be able to source enough to run the whole cycle above, but I was wondering: If you get to the point of researching 50mg/day, and given most vials are 10mg, how are you reconstituting to administer that much? Are you only using .2 ml/vial and then combining into a pen or second vial? I can’t imagine injecting 10ml a day (but maybe I am not that imaginative.)

            Second question is: would researching a lighter protocol than the one above still be beneficial? For example, if you could get 200 mg, would running Phase 1 and a short Phase 2 be worthwhile? I assume some benefit is better than none, but I don’t know given that most of what I have researched is either ongoing or repeats cycles often.

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              Randy
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              recon one, move it into a fresh one, wait 20 min, do it again and repeat.

              I actually have 50mg vials right now so im having an easier time.

              Its research. Ive never done that (maybe someone else has). I hear influencers jacked up on test,hgh and anavar say that 500mcg makes them feel so much more energized so i guess milage may vary.

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                ResearchCat
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                #14

                Cool, thx. My current plan is that once i finish my current run of CJC/IPA(3 months), I will do a cycle of Epitalon(5x20) then maybe SS-31 and back to CJC/Ipa, or maybe MOTS-C. (Still researching Tirz/Glow.) I don’t know how many I want to stack at one go.

                My main focus is longevity and healthspan, so even though I have gone down this getting ripped rabbit hole, it’s under the auspice of maintaining long term health. 🙂

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                  jt2oux
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                  Thank you for this helpful dosing protocol

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                    MyB
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                    Just saw Nexaph still has SS-31, it is listed as NXP-ATP

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                      theckman80
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                      I started with Reta and wish I would have started with an SS-31 protocol, did a MOTS-C protocol, then started my Reta. The idea of fixing the mitochondria before mashing the gas pedal with Reta sounds like it would have allowed the Reta to perform better.

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                        GH76
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                        I've been considering adding MOTS-c to my stack and I've read that it is recommended to take SS-31 beforehand. Is this a hard and fast rule or are there any metrics that can be used to determine if one can jump straight into MOTS-c?

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                          I've been considering adding MOTS-c to my stack and I've read that it is recommended to take SS-31 beforehand. Is this a hard and fast rule or are there any metrics that can be used to determine if one can jump straight into MOTS-c?

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                          diegoc
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                          @GH76 like 99% of ppl in the peptide space start off backwards, but will it work yeah, but not as good.

                          Your actually skipping 2 steps….

                          Fox04- remove all the dead cells
                          Ss-31 repair the remaining good cells
                          Mots-c - fuel for your good cells
                          NAD+ octane boost for your cells

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                            Diego is spot on.

                            "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                              GH76
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                              I'm familiar with FOXO and senescent cell removal but didn't know that it was an available peptide. I haven't heard mention of it anywhere until now. Thanks for the info, Diego.

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                                PeptidePete
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                                Food for thought: Liz Parrish, CEO of BioViva Science has said the senescent cells act as placeholders, AND, some are stem cells, and if you are already old and have few, may wipe out the reservoir to draw from using a regeneration process. Do your own due diligence. I did a round of FOX04-DRI and now regret it, aside from the fact it gave me an ISR I will never forget.

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                                  ResearchCat
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                                  That is really timely. I was just starting to look at FOX-04 DRI, and just saw a new video on it. It seems like with all the attention SS-31/MOTS-C/NAD+ are getting that FOX is as well. Clearing out senescent cells sounds like a great idea, but I’d be a bit concerned with killing off 10%(one number I saw) of my cells without better understanding of what they get replaced with.

                                  Definitely requires a bit more research on my part. Thank goodness it’s expensive. 🙂

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                                    You arent wrong. I just checked that on ez/nexaph/paramount and the item not longer has a hyperlink in my order history.

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                                    theckman80
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                                    @Randy when you buy from Nexaph, is it normal to be required to register with a separate company as a researcher?

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                                      Yeah that's a new thing so they don't lose their payment processor. That research group you have to join is a third party that a bunch of research vendors are signing up with. But it's okay because you are a researcher 🙃.

                                      If you will want to avoid that and save 5% just pay with crypto.

                                      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                        Food for thought: Liz Parrish, CEO of BioViva Science has said the senescent cells act as placeholders, AND, some are stem cells, and if you are already old and have few, may wipe out the reservoir to draw from using a regeneration process. Do your own due diligence. I did a round of FOX04-DRI and now regret it, aside from the fact it gave me an ISR I will never forget.

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                                        diegoc
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                                        @PeptidePete Im not 100% sure its bad to do fox04 thats to be seen however the ISR is pretty radical.

                                        I still have a welt on my ass over 1 month ago and doesn’t go away, pretty weird what it did in that spot of my butt

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                                          ResearchCat
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                                          I am not at all an expert, but the gist of it (concern about researching FOX-04) is that some senescent cells may still be performing useful functions, some may be stem cells, and others are okay to clear. It isn’t clear at this point whether FOX-04 only targets senescent cells that are okay to clear out, or if it will target all of them, and whether there are deleterious affects associated with that.

                                          The research I have seen targets the cells in particular parts of the body and does show beneficial effects. I haven’t found anything on system/organism-wide research so far.

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