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  • S Stevepep

    I f I didn’t have easy access to Hospira from my clinic I would buy lambda. The COA’s are there and many people use them. These vendors are straight up thieves ripping people off and we are dumb enough to fall for it. The only way prices come down is with competition it it the hoarding stupidity stops,

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    Stevepep said:

    I f I didn’t have easy access to Hospira from my clinic I would buy lambda. The COA’s are there and many people use them. These vendors are straight up thieves ripping people off and we are dumb enough to fall for it. The only way prices come down is with competition and if the hoarding stupidity stops, I know people who have 2 cases of this stuff. You can’t use it in even two years.

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      Stevepep said:

      I f I didn’t have easy access to Hospira from my clinic I would buy lambda. The COA’s are there and many people use them. These vendors are straight up thieves ripping people off and we are dumb enough to fall for it. The only way prices come down is with competition and if the hoarding stupidity stops, I know people who have 2 cases of this stuff. You can’t use it in even two years.

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      @Stevepep I like Lambda and bought a couple the other day. Unfortunately, they don't have the NaCl/CH3 mix for MOTS-C & SS-31. Love having as many alternatives as possible!

      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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        @Stevepep I like Lambda and bought a couple the other day. Unfortunately, they don't have the NaCl/CH3 mix for MOTS-C & SS-31. Love having as many alternatives as possible!

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        @Eleanor sorry I shouldn’t have posted that they will probably sell out now.what a bunch of crazies we are

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        • E Eleanor

          @Stevepep I like Lambda and bought a couple the other day. Unfortunately, they don't have the NaCl/CH3 mix for MOTS-C & SS-31. Love having as many alternatives as possible!

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          @Eleanor said:

          @Stevepep I like Lambda and bought a couple the other day. Unfortunately, they don't have the NaCl/CH3 mix for MOTS-C & SS-31. Love having as many alternatives as possible!

          So Lambda doesn’t work with Mots-C and SS-31?

          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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            I’ve used Lambda for nasal sprays, works well. I did make the mistake, or maybe should say found out, when I decided to try it with GHK last night, it doesn’t like it. Turned to crystallized sludge in about 15 mins. This morning, checked again, same state.

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            • WisGal64W WisGal64

              I’ve used Lambda for nasal sprays, works well. I did make the mistake, or maybe should say found out, when I decided to try it with GHK last night, it doesn’t like it. Turned to crystallized sludge in about 15 mins. This morning, checked again, same state.

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              @WisGal64
              Well that sucks..

              Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                Just saw this also…

                IMG_2268.jpeg

                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                  Not to cross post, but I wonder if Parrox works with everything? I used it before, but it was so long ago I can’t remember…

                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                    @Eleanor said:

                    @Stevepep I like Lambda and bought a couple the other day. Unfortunately, they don't have the NaCl/CH3 mix for MOTS-C & SS-31. Love having as many alternatives as possible!

                    So Lambda doesn’t work with Mots-C and SS-31?

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                    @Commander
                    if you look at peptide protocols, you'll see recommendation for NaCl/CH3 to be used instead of regular BAC. I don't know if this is true but I got a couple of bottles from another vendor the other day.

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                      @Commander
                      if you look at peptide protocols, you'll see recommendation for NaCl/CH3 to be used instead of regular BAC. I don't know if this is true but I got a couple of bottles from another vendor the other day.

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                      @Eleanor
                      Oh…
                      I just use my Hospira with everything and it works. So I never looked into it.

                      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                      • WisGal64W WisGal64

                        I’ve used Lambda for nasal sprays, works well. I did make the mistake, or maybe should say found out, when I decided to try it with GHK last night, it doesn’t like it. Turned to crystallized sludge in about 15 mins. This morning, checked again, same state.

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                        @WisGal64 Not that I really know anything as to why that happened to your GHK but Lambda is 5.1 pH, a bit lower than others.

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                          @Eleanor
                          Oh…
                          I just use my Hospira with everything and it works. So I never looked into it.

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                          @Commander said:

                          @Eleanor
                          Oh…
                          I just use my Hospira with everything and it works. So I never looked into it.

                          "If it works, don't fix it."

                          Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                            Parrox is good by most measures,but ph hovers around 7, so its a little too basic for some peps. I'd keep a vial of acetic acid around to compensate if needed. That said,they might have adjusted it on new stock. the price is good.

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                            • WisGal64W WisGal64

                              I’ve used Lambda for nasal sprays, works well. I did make the mistake, or maybe should say found out, when I decided to try it with GHK last night, it doesn’t like it. Turned to crystallized sludge in about 15 mins. This morning, checked again, same state.

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                              @WisGal64 interesting I have lab grade equipment in the office for ph, tds, I can measure alcohol content as well I think, (I am not a scientist but I believe we have a meter for that) it measures brix and micro testing, I am going to order stuff and test it out.

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                                @brianluna You are the luckiest person in the RUO world. lol

                                Can your doc write script for me? 😉

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                                @pep_researcher GB let me know. 😁

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                                • S Stevepep

                                  @pep_researcher just ask many will. I go for my dexa scan later today (hoping for 25pct body fat) gonna pick up some Hospira and see what they charge me. I suspect it will be a little more expensive. We know these vendors mark it up 300pct so even a $2 change will drive up the price.

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                                  @Stevepep said:

                                  just ask many

                                  Unfortunately I'm 99% sure my PCP won't unless it's a prescription from her for something else that needs BAC. I go to a large corporate like provider facility and those docs are pretty tightly bonded to the FDA and big pharma lobby.

                                  When I used branded GLP but got script from a telehealth (because prev PCP at the same facility shut me down), new PCP's first reaction was Oh I hope you aren't taking those illegal compounded ones. Now imagine me asking her script for H BAC to recon and research my Reta or MOTS-C! 😂

                                  I need to find some new age doc free of these corporate bondages!

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                                    @Stevepep said:

                                    just ask many

                                    Unfortunately I'm 99% sure my PCP won't unless it's a prescription from her for something else that needs BAC. I go to a large corporate like provider facility and those docs are pretty tightly bonded to the FDA and big pharma lobby.

                                    When I used branded GLP but got script from a telehealth (because prev PCP at the same facility shut me down), new PCP's first reaction was Oh I hope you aren't taking those illegal compounded ones. Now imagine me asking her script for H BAC to recon and research my Reta or MOTS-C! 😂

                                    I need to find some new age doc free of these corporate bondages!

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                                    @pep_researcher the wellness clinics that specialize in alternative medicine and do scans compound a bunch of these internally. Like Tirz. They also sell injectable vitamin combos. So they have it and will sell it to you to use for that reason. I just ask for 3 vials they don’t question it and get it for $7 when I check out. That may change if the price actually increased.

                                    If that changed for me I would order Lambda. Screw these vendors who can’t count the money fast enough, I guess it’s our fault people buy cases. Then get scared and order even more. They have 3-5 years worth of this stuff and think the expiration date is there for comedy reasons. Wait till they realize that little bit of degradation of the alcohol goes somewhere in an enclosed container it degrades the stopper and degrades the bottle. Hello impurities they are injecting into themselves and they stay in your body forever. But people want to believe what they want to believe based on some YouTube guy.

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                                      Peptide uses in general have skyrocketed. It isn’t just people buying 3 cases each. You live in some delusional world if you think these prices weren’t going to go up. 6 years ago when I started taking BPC-157 no one knew what peptides were. Today every person knows what peptides are and there is an insane amount of people on Reta and Tirz. 3 years ago people were having problems finding places to get samaglytide, now it is a quick search on the internet and bam you can find it anywhere. ALL of these new people taking peptides have increased the amount of BAC being need. So stop crying that somehow the few people that buy multiple cases has now ruined it… and if we want to use expired Hospira over Chinese toilet water - WE CAN!

                                      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                      • S Stevepep

                                        @WisGal64 interesting I have lab grade equipment in the office for ph, tds, I can measure alcohol content as well I think, (I am not a scientist but I believe we have a meter for that) it measures brix and micro testing, I am going to order stuff and test it out.

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                                        @Stevepep said:

                                        @WisGal64 interesting I have lab grade equipment in the office for ph, tds, I can measure alcohol content as well I think, (I am not a scientist but I believe we have a meter for that) it measures brix and micro testing, I am going to order stuff and test it out.

                                        Now you really have me curious about your profession 🙃

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                                        • S Stevepep

                                          @pep_researcher the wellness clinics that specialize in alternative medicine and do scans compound a bunch of these internally. Like Tirz. They also sell injectable vitamin combos. So they have it and will sell it to you to use for that reason. I just ask for 3 vials they don’t question it and get it for $7 when I check out. That may change if the price actually increased.

                                          If that changed for me I would order Lambda. Screw these vendors who can’t count the money fast enough, I guess it’s our fault people buy cases. Then get scared and order even more. They have 3-5 years worth of this stuff and think the expiration date is there for comedy reasons. Wait till they realize that little bit of degradation of the alcohol goes somewhere in an enclosed container it degrades the stopper and degrades the bottle. Hello impurities they are injecting into themselves and they stay in your body forever. But people want to believe what they want to believe based on some YouTube guy.

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                                          @Stevepep said:

                                          wellness clinics

                                          Yeah that's my clue. Will look around for those.

                                          We are in an interesting era with things changing so fast. Remember Peptide Science charged exorbitant prices for in house testing COAs. They closed shop, and now we have a buffet of RUO vendors.

                                          Given the peptide popularity, BAC water will evolve too with better and cheaper options. But it will take up to a year or more to see that. Until then the panic and these vendor sales tactics will continue.

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