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    mikebricker
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    I see that Nexaph now carries this relatively new version of Epithalon. The regular Epithalon dosing is usually about 100mg over a therapy period. Like 2mg/day for 50 days, etc.
    Has anyone tried this Amidate version and have any insight as to the dosing equivalent to the regular version? For the Semax Amidate version it seems stronger plus lasts much longer in the body. It would seem this could be the case with the Epithalon?
    Thanks for any insight…

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      These new formulations are being invented a lot faster than tested and researched, so I would be surprised to see even one serious study of it. Saying that, the idea is clear, to make it more stable. Theoretically it should help the bioavailability in nasal or sublingual applications. I tried it some time ago and did not see any difference comparing to Epitalon. I would use it at the same dose.

      attentiion is all you need

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        Be careful with this one. There are clinical reports of nasal dosing over 600 mg causing anxiety and sleep issues.

        As for injectables, that would also be something I would probably start lower on and see if I got affect due to its longer acting NA compounding

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          Be careful with this one. There are clinical reports of nasal dosing over 600 mg causing anxiety and sleep issues.

          As for injectables, that would also be something I would probably start lower on and see if I got affect due to its longer acting NA compounding

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          @ogsteve definitely sq is better. Nasal or even sublingual Epitalon over about 600 mg makes me anxious.

          attentiion is all you need

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            @ogsteve definitely sq is better. Nasal or even sublingual Epitalon over about 600 mg makes me anxious.

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            @vpeps I admit I’ve never bothered to try it intranasally. In all honesty my current sub Q dose is 600 to 800 µg. I’m honestly not sure where to fall sub Q on this compound.

            I have tried up to 5 mg for a short period before I chickened out and went down in dose

            Do you have any actionable Intel on this?

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              @vpeps I admit I’ve never bothered to try it intranasally. In all honesty my current sub Q dose is 600 to 800 µg. I’m honestly not sure where to fall sub Q on this compound.

              I have tried up to 5 mg for a short period before I chickened out and went down in dose

              Do you have any actionable Intel on this?

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              @ogsteve I used it sq, 1-2 mg, I don't know what to test for it exactly. I think, if I don't use it for some time, and use it once, it improves my sleep. But using it daily for long, I am coming to a conclusion it is not needed. These are bioregulators, they switch something, so they need to be used for a short period, from time to time. The pineal gland is very small, so a big dose not is needed.
              If you need to stir up a bottle of an orange juice with pulp, you do it intensively enough for a short time, and then you just keep using it until, after awhile, you need to repeat the process. That's the idea.

              attentiion is all you need

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