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The Cartalax Did It! My Knee Feels So Much Better!

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  • Reactive3078R Reactive3078

    @iMemphis18 any updates?

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    @Reactive3078 Eh.... i didnt notice much at all tbh, but i was doing 2mg daily. I heard people say to do up to 5mg..... so i might try that, but honestly dont think its worth the money. My body prob reacts differently than others, so others might have better experience than me.

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      @Reactive3078 Eh.... i didnt notice much at all tbh, but i was doing 2mg daily. I heard people say to do up to 5mg..... so i might try that, but honestly dont think its worth the money. My body prob reacts differently than others, so others might have better experience than me.

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      @iMemphis18
      How long were you doing 2mg a day?
      I'm interested in the cartilage repair aspects, but the size of the dose is rather disconcerting for me. I'm effectively micro dosing BPC and TB4 (0.5mg daily of both) and that's working fine for me. So I'm hesitant to commit to the 2-5mg a day I'm seeing in protocols.

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        GLP-1 has real trial support of symptoms relief and slow down cartilage degeneration (possible regeneration - not yet proven). Everything else is all anecdote.

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41666927/
        https://howardluksmd.substack.com/p/glp1s-ozempic-might-actually-rebuild

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          GLP-1 has real trial support of symptoms relief and slow down cartilage degeneration (possible regeneration - not yet proven). Everything else is all anecdote.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41666927/
          https://howardluksmd.substack.com/p/glp1s-ozempic-might-actually-rebuild

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          @mmp said:

          GLP-1 has real trial support of symptoms relief and slow down cartilage degeneration (possible regeneration - not yet proven). Everything else is all anecdote.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41666927/
          https://howardluksmd.substack.com/p/glp1s-ozempic-might-actually-rebuild

          Yeah, the research on joint health and repair is quite compelling, if not yet proven.

          Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

          If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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            @iMemphis18
            How long were you doing 2mg a day?
            I'm interested in the cartilage repair aspects, but the size of the dose is rather disconcerting for me. I'm effectively micro dosing BPC and TB4 (0.5mg daily of both) and that's working fine for me. So I'm hesitant to commit to the 2-5mg a day I'm seeing in protocols.

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            @seadracos said:

            @iMemphis18
            How long were you doing 2mg a day?
            I'm interested in the cartilage repair aspects, but the size of the dose is rather disconcerting for me. I'm effectively micro dosing BPC and TB4 (0.5mg daily of both) and that's working fine for me. So I'm hesitant to commit to the 2-5mg a day I'm seeing in protocols.

            Apologies for nitpicking, but this isn’t a microdose. 500mcg/500mcg is pretty standard. I will sometimes double it but haven’t gone higher.

            Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

            If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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              @iMemphis18
              How long were you doing 2mg a day?
              I'm interested in the cartilage repair aspects, but the size of the dose is rather disconcerting for me. I'm effectively micro dosing BPC and TB4 (0.5mg daily of both) and that's working fine for me. So I'm hesitant to commit to the 2-5mg a day I'm seeing in protocols.

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              @seadracos I did it for about 2 months. I just swapped to 5MG daily a few days ago. Will used up my last remaining vials and see. I think I have enough for another 3-4 weeks. If i dont notice anything at all, ill likely discontinue it.

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                @seadracos said:

                @iMemphis18
                How long were you doing 2mg a day?
                I'm interested in the cartilage repair aspects, but the size of the dose is rather disconcerting for me. I'm effectively micro dosing BPC and TB4 (0.5mg daily of both) and that's working fine for me. So I'm hesitant to commit to the 2-5mg a day I'm seeing in protocols.

                Apologies for nitpicking, but this isn’t a microdose. 500mcg/500mcg is pretty standard. I will sometimes double it but haven’t gone higher.

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                  @seadracos I did it for about 2 months. I just swapped to 5MG daily a few days ago. Will used up my last remaining vials and see. I think I have enough for another 3-4 weeks. If i dont notice anything at all, ill likely discontinue it.

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                    @seadracos said:

                    @iMemphis18
                    How long were you doing 2mg a day?
                    I'm interested in the cartilage repair aspects, but the size of the dose is rather disconcerting for me. I'm effectively micro dosing BPC and TB4 (0.5mg daily of both) and that's working fine for me. So I'm hesitant to commit to the 2-5mg a day I'm seeing in protocols.

                    Apologies for nitpicking, but this isn’t a microdose. 500mcg/500mcg is pretty standard. I will sometimes double it but haven’t gone higher.

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                    @ResearchCat No problems, I'm typically a nit picker myself. I had thought 500mcg was typical, but some of the protocol's I've seen are insane and had me wondering, 2mg daily. Then again, part of it is probably an apples and oranges comparison. Most of the high dose protocol's I'm seeing aren't wolverine, I was just looking a the high end of one titration curve.

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                    • I iMemphis18

                      @seadracos I did it for about 2 months. I just swapped to 5MG daily a few days ago. Will used up my last remaining vials and see. I think I have enough for another 3-4 weeks. If i dont notice anything at all, ill likely discontinue it.

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                      @iMemphis18 Thanks, I'm curious so please let me know. Also, are you using it in conjunction with BCP or TB4?

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                        I am currently in the middle of a modified Cartalax protocol that I saw mentioned in a couple of different forums I am in to hopefully help address hip issues. I am also cycling in TB4 at 2mg 3x/week. I am only currently mid way through my first cycle, so not much improvement to report.
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                          I am currently in the middle of a modified Cartalax protocol that I saw mentioned in a couple of different forums I am in to hopefully help address hip issues. I am also cycling in TB4 at 2mg 3x/week. I am only currently mid way through my first cycle, so not much improvement to report.
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                          @BoxerLover Are you following the cartalax protocol completely?

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                            I assume cartalax is a localized subq injection close to the joint in question?

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                              I assume cartalax is a localized subq injection close to the joint in question?

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                              @rmchrist See, I am puzzled why even some recognized voices say it should be injected next to the injury site subcutaneously. The theory is, subcutaneous injection targets the subcutaneous fat layer under the skin, which is part of the skin as an organ rather than whatever organ is injured, a joint or a disc. Skin has its own blood vessel system quite separated from the joints under it, so the injection is absorbed through the skin into the blood and is distributed around the body, and then it can get into the joints. It makes me think that either the people inject directly into the joint tissue to have a direct effect, which is not subcutaneous injection anymore, or it is a placebo effect.

                              attentiion is all you need

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                                @BoxerLover Are you following the cartalax protocol completely?

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                                @Reactive3078 Yes I am... I started at 2mg and and increased by 500mcg every two weeks. I'm currently on week 8 at 3.5mg.

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                                  @rmchrist See, I am puzzled why even some recognized voices say it should be injected next to the injury site subcutaneously. The theory is, subcutaneous injection targets the subcutaneous fat layer under the skin, which is part of the skin as an organ rather than whatever organ is injured, a joint or a disc. Skin has its own blood vessel system quite separated from the joints under it, so the injection is absorbed through the skin into the blood and is distributed around the body, and then it can get into the joints. It makes me think that either the people inject directly into the joint tissue to have a direct effect, which is not subcutaneous injection anymore, or it is a placebo effect.

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                                  @vpeps I was sort of thinking the same thing concerning injecting into the joint tissue. I think that is truly the only way to “localize” the injection and not have it diffused throughout the body.

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                                    @Eleanor
                                    I highly recommend the KPV. I started off using KLOW and Wolverine and was so surprised when it worked immediately and I no longer felt pain. Then I had to stop the KLOW because I couldn't handle the GHK-CU stinging (I'll probably retry once I've forgotten how much it stung, I may have been using too short of a needle) and the joint pain cane right back.
                                    I'm convinced it's the KPV dealing with the joint inflammation that had the extraordinary effects that I initially didn’t feel.

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                                    @seadracos
                                    I does sting like a mutha. The KPV is working great! Glad it's working for you.

                                    Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                      @vpeps I was sort of thinking the same thing concerning injecting into the joint tissue. I think that is truly the only way to “localize” the injection and not have it diffused throughout the body.

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                                      @rmchrist it is, but it is also not as harmless as SQ. Especially I wouldn't mess with spine.

                                      attentiion is all you need

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                                        @Eleanor
                                        I highly recommend the KPV. I started off using KLOW and Wolverine and was so surprised when it worked immediately and I no longer felt pain. Then I had to stop the KLOW because I couldn't handle the GHK-CU stinging (I'll probably retry once I've forgotten how much it stung, I may have been using too short of a needle) and the joint pain cane right back.
                                        I'm convinced it's the KPV dealing with the joint inflammation that had the extraordinary effects that I initially didn’t feel.

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                                        @seadracos Don't use a pen if that what you use. Use a regular syringe. Load your dose then pull another 10 units BAC. It works really well for me and inject slowly.

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                                          I'm curious how many people has this peptide helped? Similar to BPC-157 and TB-500 there is scant hard research on the peptide. Unlike BPC-157 and TB-500 there are not lots of positive reviews claiming beneficial outcomes, I've only come across a handful.

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