Discussion: Amino Metrics: Another Mystery Lab
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No offense, I like your content. But I guess Im wondering why a page selling peptides needs to post there address?
I don't really see whats wrong with privacy, I mean a lot of these businesses may share an address where there families reside. Many businesses run in this manner. I mean iBM was started in a gerage.
And people are weird nowadays! Who wants a random peptide fanatic just showing up un announced.
Also is your address on your website? Where people can just drop in? Im sure there are a lot of fans of yours that would like to pop in and say hi.
I appreciate what you guys do, but some of the statements about some of these businesses seems a bit un fair at times.@crowhopforge it's called STANDARDS - I personally don't want to buy from a supplier who is using their garage to hold supplies in unsanitary conditions. The people on this forum have higher standards than just trusting a website especially for the products we are injecting into our bodies. You should probably question why your standards are so low.
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Well unless you are rich, and are paying hundreds of dollars, for peptides I would bet you have bought peptides that came from a person's private property.
I mean its not like there manufacturing them in there bathtub! If its a sealed vile, wipe it down with an alcohol pad.
I for one can not afford to pay triple the price so a peptide can set in a fridge or even a shelf in a warehouse that probably isn't much cleaner. -
Well unless you are rich, and are paying hundreds of dollars, for peptides I would bet you have bought peptides that came from a person's private property.
I mean its not like there manufacturing them in there bathtub! If its a sealed vile, wipe it down with an alcohol pad.
I for one can not afford to pay triple the price so a peptide can set in a fridge or even a shelf in a warehouse that probably isn't much cleaner.@crowhopforge it's not expensive to have standards, there's peptide suppliers who meet those standards that don't cost an arm and a leg. Since you are new here, spend some time reading the forum and the reviews, compare the prices in the price index and read peoples experiences not just with vendor supply but customer service issues and then maybe your standards will raise up. Injecting things that are cheap are how we thin out the herd.
Edit to add- I'm definitely not rich.
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Well unless you are rich, and are paying hundreds of dollars, for peptides I would bet you have bought peptides that came from a person's private property.
I mean its not like there manufacturing them in there bathtub! If its a sealed vile, wipe it down with an alcohol pad.
I for one can not afford to pay triple the price so a peptide can set in a fridge or even a shelf in a warehouse that probably isn't much cleaner.@crowhopforge how about a place testing peptides, should we know its address, who they are, what equipment do they have? If they release a certificate what does it certify? They have to establish an authority to prove their word of approval has a weight. It's hard to do if you are a hidden ninja from nowhere.
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No offense, I like your content. But I guess Im wondering why a page selling peptides needs to post there address?
I don't really see whats wrong with privacy, I mean a lot of these businesses may share an address where there families reside. Many businesses run in this manner. I mean iBM was started in a gerage.
And people are weird nowadays! Who wants a random peptide fanatic just showing up un announced.
Also is your address on your website? Where people can just drop in? Im sure there are a lot of fans of yours that would like to pop in and say hi.
I appreciate what you guys do, but some of the statements about some of these businesses seems a bit un fair at times.@crowhopforge Our business information is in the footer. We aren’t hard to find, and we expect the same transparency from a laboratory being used to verify peptides being sold to customers.
You’re also describing a peptide vendor. Amino Metrics presents itself as an independent analytical laboratory. Who owns it? Who performs the testing? What are their qualifications? Where is the laboratory? Those are basic questions about the business selling the scientific credibility behind someone else’s product.
Nobody is asking for their kids’ bedrooms or an invitation to Thanksgiving. We’re asking for identifiable professionals and a verifiable business. Publishing business information doesn’t mean accepting unannounced visitors.
The entire purpose of independent testing is verification. That standard applies to the people issuing the certificates, too. “Trust us, we value our privacy” doesn’t answer any of those questions.
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Well unless you are rich, and are paying hundreds of dollars, for peptides I would bet you have bought peptides that came from a person's private property.
I mean its not like there manufacturing them in there bathtub! If its a sealed vile, wipe it down with an alcohol pad.
I for one can not afford to pay triple the price so a peptide can set in a fridge or even a shelf in a warehouse that probably isn't much cleaner.@crowhopforge So making them in the bathtub... I have some photos I could show you
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O bet there is some horrible players out there, and im not disputing that verification is out of line, but in several of your articles bring up the address or the owners name. For me personally, if I can verify a coa, I don't need to know the name of the owner or there address. Thats all. I do appreciate the other stuff though.
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You’re still framing this as a peptide vendor keeping its personal details private. Amino Metrics presents itself as an independent analytical laboratory. It’s the business vendors point to when they say, “Don’t take our word for it. This lab verified it.”
That makes the lab’s ownership, qualifications, and location directly relevant. How do you establish independence if you don’t know who owns it? How do you check qualifications without knowing who performed the work? Every lab we use and trust is open about who runs the operation. We expect that from the new guys too.
We only ever share publicly available information. My name is Jeff Colhoun. Google it. Our business information is in the footer on the about page. So is my name. We’re easy to verify. The people selling verification should be, too.
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O bet there is some horrible players out there, and im not disputing that verification is out of line, but in several of your articles bring up the address or the owners name. For me personally, if I can verify a coa, I don't need to know the name of the owner or there address. Thats all. I do appreciate the other stuff though.
O bet there is some horrible players out there, and im not disputing that verification is out of line, but in several of your articles bring up the address or the owners name. For me personally, if I can verify a coa, I don't need to know the name of the owner or there address. Thats all. I do appreciate the other stuff though.
How do you verify a COA? By checking the lab site to make sure it's posted there?
I think you need to consider that we are injecting things into our body which is risky as it is. So we are placing a lot of trust in these labs that they are actually doing what they say they are doing, and testing correctly. If they want to hide where they are located, that's a red flag for me. I can setup a website and just make a nice template for a COA and charge some of these vendors $20 for it and I am sure I will be flooded with business all the while I just make up 99.8% purity for all of them.
Knowing the lab, where they are located, who runs them I think is very important. Just another layer of transparency that is needed in this area of RUO peptides.I give a lot of credit to Janoshik. The owner is in the public and a public figure now. If they mess up, he knows he will be held accountable. All these other labs, its a mystery who they are run by.
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I do not disagree, I did miss the point for some reason my brain didn't completely make the connection about it being a testing lab. But I still think my point is valid, if not on this particular topic but then others.
I did see your address but when I looked it up on Google maps it took me to a neighborhood not a physical address, but I very well could of missed it within another catagory.
Lets be honest in an interview with the owner of janoshick he even said he started in his collage dorm.
Any way im glad you guys are here i read a majority of your articles. I also know from personal experience how hard ot is to get a new business off the ground. I guess a good way to find out is sent samples 1 that passed, and 1 that failed feom a respected lab, and see if they match up! That would be interesting. -
Appreciate you acknowledging the distinction. Starting small isn’t the issue. A new lab can introduce its owner, identify the person responsible for testing, explain their qualifications, and disclose where the work happens. None of that requires an expensive building or years in business.
The dorm-room example still involves an identifiable person whose background and business history you can examine. That’s exactly the accountability we’re asking for. It also comes from a very different stage of this industry. There’s serious money moving through peptide sales today, and these reports are being used to convince customers to spend it.
As for our address, that’s our mailing address. It’s where we receive mail. Our business information is published, and so is my identity. We aren’t hard to find.
Comparing samples across labs could be useful (and we've done it), but customers shouldn’t have to fund an investigation just to establish whether a testing company deserves their trust. The lab should provide the basics before taking their money.
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From a TG channel:
Jay G: Hello Everyone, I’d like to formally introduce our trusted lab, Amino Metrics. @AminoMetrics is a great lab and definitely recommend anyone needing legit and accurate services to hit them up. Amino Metrics: Hello everyone! I look forward to helping with any testing needs that we can serve! Our lab is located in Ventura County, California, and our lead chemist has over 20 years of experience manufacturing purifying and analyzing recombinant proteins like IGF1-LR3 and HGH for the scientific industry, and we offer testing on a growing number of peptides, small compounds, and other samples ( no controlled substances, sorry ). Feel free to check out our price list or order at https://aminometrics.com and message me with any questions! You can also message our long-suffering CTO, @FraktalityPi with feature requests or technical issues. Some of you may be familiar with him 😉
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