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    cathypowell
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    Glutes had a red welt that has lasted 6+ days, belly gone in 2-3 days. Started week 2 yesterday. lower right belly last night no red spot

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      I am down 1 week on KLOW . I have tried ice, histamine pills, cream with the site reaction. It is red for 4-7 days. About the size of a nickel. Any suggestions, really need the KLOW for my chronic inflammation due to autoimmune.....

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      @cathypowell You could try using KPV on it's own if you're after the anti-inflammatory aspect of KLOW. The reality is, for some people the reactions to certain peptides like Mots-C, GHK-Cu and SS-31, are severe histamine responses and should therefore probably be avoided. Perhaps stacking KPV with BPC 157 and TB-500 may be more helpful to you, as it removes the copper from the equation. Another option for inflammation is low dose Naltrexone, which is a tiny pill taken daily. Here's a link to the stack I mentioned. Good luck!
      https://peptidewiki.co/guides/bpc-157-kpv-tb-500-stack

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        No idea about this really, but remember reading somewhere that you can "chase or flush" injection with bac water
        pull some units of BAC water, for example: 10 into syringe
        pull however many units of KLOW after that into the same syringe
        inject.
        Theoretically the last 10 units should be mostly BAC water and may? help.

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          Switch to a 1/2” 3/16 is too swallow and often ends up subdermally not subq enough.

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            I am using a 5/16" but will try the 1/2"

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                I tried to switch from 5/16" to 1/2" for Cu-GHK, it didn't make much difference, it actually seemed too deep and caused more bruises. 5/16" is fine to me, not less. Using a mix with KPV and using more BAC water helped.

                attentiion is all you need

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                  I went down to 32x4mm and started getting more bumps and ISR’s. 32x6mm or 31x5/6mm seems to be a sweet spot. Anything longer than 10mm(syringes mostly) and i get a lot of bruising due to severed capillaries.

                  Not specific to GHK.

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                    KPV seemed to help my reaction I'm super sensitive. Also after you draw your dose go ahead and draw another 5 IU of bac water and split the injection to two sites. Glutes, underside of arms, love handles. Pretty much anywhere I got fat😂.

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                      I have to hand it to you guys doing GHK-cu, GLOW/KLOW. I typically dont have an issue with researching any of these peptides. Even ones that seem to have a higher chance of ISR or reactions. Then I started KLOW two days ago... LOL. I fell like a damn pansy! No redness or ISR per se, but it stings and itches the entire day. Ill try the thigh today instead of abdomen to see if thats better. I did dilute quite a bit, and am using 6mm needles, maybe Ill try 8mm.

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                        I have to hand it to you guys doing GHK-cu, GLOW/KLOW. I typically dont have an issue with researching any of these peptides. Even ones that seem to have a higher chance of ISR or reactions. Then I started KLOW two days ago... LOL. I fell like a damn pansy! No redness or ISR per se, but it stings and itches the entire day. Ill try the thigh today instead of abdomen to see if thats better. I did dilute quite a bit, and am using 6mm needles, maybe Ill try 8mm.

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                        @JtCjEfF Try in the back, lower back/upper ass backside of love handle area. No issues there for me and my wife. Other places are a hard no for my wife.

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                          No idea about this really, but remember reading somewhere that you can "chase or flush" injection with bac water
                          pull some units of BAC water, for example: 10 into syringe
                          pull however many units of KLOW after that into the same syringe
                          inject.
                          Theoretically the last 10 units should be mostly BAC water and may? help.

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                          @senex_mus said:

                          No idea about this really, but remember reading somewhere that you can "chase or flush" injection with bac water
                          pull some units of BAC water, for example: 10 into syringe
                          pull however many units of KLOW after that into the same syringe
                          inject.
                          Theoretically the last 10 units should be mostly BAC water and may? help.

                          I did this for GHK-CU to finish an existing reconstituted vial and it helped. Next recon, I adjusted the amount of BAC.

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                            Just offering my two cents but I always reconstitute KLOW 80mg (50/10/10/10) with 6 ml of bac. Knock on wood, I have never had a site reaction with any subject.

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                              I have to hand it to you guys doing GHK-cu, GLOW/KLOW. I typically dont have an issue with researching any of these peptides. Even ones that seem to have a higher chance of ISR or reactions. Then I started KLOW two days ago... LOL. I fell like a damn pansy! No redness or ISR per se, but it stings and itches the entire day. Ill try the thigh today instead of abdomen to see if thats better. I did dilute quite a bit, and am using 6mm needles, maybe Ill try 8mm.

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                              @JtCjEfF said:

                              I have to hand it to you guys doing GHK-cu, GLOW/KLOW. I typically dont have an issue with researching any of these peptides. Even ones that seem to have a higher chance of ISR or reactions. Then I started KLOW two days ago... LOL. I fell like a damn pansy! No redness or ISR per se, but it stings and itches the entire day. Ill try the thigh today instead of abdomen to see if thats better. I did dilute quite a bit, and am using 6mm needles, maybe Ill try 8mm.

                              Weirdly enough, I got an ISR reaction (24 hours later) from going from 8mm (31G) to 4mm (32G). At first, I thought it was GHK-CU & KPV or even bac water. I had the ISR on my abdomen and thighs. The ISR still persisted even after stopping GHK-CU & KPV; it persisted for a few weeks until I figured out that it was the 4mm (32G) causing the issue by not going deep enough, which caused all the ISR.

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                                Blends are NO BUENO. You mess with chemistry. For example, for the healing stack of bpc, tb 500 and kpv, you mix that and you are not getting correct amounts of tb500, bpc and kpv. You are only supposed to do 10 units of tb500 every 5 days and kpv and bpc daily 10. I like Dr T for info because he explains the biology and physiology. https://www.instagram.com/p/DTbuOd9ER2b/

                                www.alchemygolldresearch.com

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                                  Just offering my two cents but I always reconstitute KLOW 80mg (50/10/10/10) with 6 ml of bac. Knock on wood, I have never had a site reaction with any subject.

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                                  @brithus https://www.instagram.com/p/DTbuOd9ER2b/

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                                    I have to hand it to you guys doing GHK-cu, GLOW/KLOW. I typically dont have an issue with researching any of these peptides. Even ones that seem to have a higher chance of ISR or reactions. Then I started KLOW two days ago... LOL. I fell like a damn pansy! No redness or ISR per se, but it stings and itches the entire day. Ill try the thigh today instead of abdomen to see if thats better. I did dilute quite a bit, and am using 6mm needles, maybe Ill try 8mm.

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                                    @JtCjEfF Its because blends are garbage. https://www.instagram.com/p/DTbuOd9ER2b/

                                    www.alchemygoldresearch.com

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                                      @JtCjEfF Its because blends are garbage. https://www.instagram.com/p/DTbuOd9ER2b/

                                      www.alchemygoldresearch.com

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                                      @AGResearch oh? So straight GHK doesn’t sting? GTF OUTTA HERE…🤌

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                                        Blends are NO BUENO. You mess with chemistry. For example, for the healing stack of bpc, tb 500 and kpv, you mix that and you are not getting correct amounts of tb500, bpc and kpv. You are only supposed to do 10 units of tb500 every 5 days and kpv and bpc daily 10. I like Dr T for info because he explains the biology and physiology. https://www.instagram.com/p/DTbuOd9ER2b/

                                        www.alchemygolldresearch.com

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                                        @AGResearch said:

                                        Blends are NO BUENO. You mess with chemistry. For example, for the healing stack of bpc, tb 500 and kpv, you mix that and you are not getting correct amounts of tb500, bpc and kpv. You are only supposed to do 10 units of tb500 every 5 days and kpv and bpc daily 10. I like Dr T for info because he explains the biology and physiology. https://www.instagram.com/p/DTbuOd9ER2b/

                                        www.alchemygoldresearch.com

                                        You literally have no idea what you are talking about. You are so uninformed. Spend time researching here where we are actually informed users. The fact that you talk about injecting in UNITS and not mg is laughable at best.

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                                          Blends are NO BUENO. You mess with chemistry. For example, for the healing stack of bpc, tb 500 and kpv, you mix that and you are not getting correct amounts of tb500, bpc and kpv. You are only supposed to do 10 units of tb500 every 5 days and kpv and bpc daily 10. I like Dr T for info because he explains the biology and physiology. https://www.instagram.com/p/DTbuOd9ER2b/

                                          www.alchemygolldresearch.com

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                                          @AGResearch I'm not going to bully you for the units comments (dilution math is what matters) but Trevor is not a doctor. He lost his license in california as a chiropractor. He also cheats in competitions.

                                          Also a 50/20 blend on ghk/kpv is what I use. 2.5mg/1mg seems to work for this rat.

                                          and most of these blends dont have tb500 they have tb4 but nobody seems to realize this.

                                          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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