Peptides, Anaphylactic Shock & Epi Pens
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Agreed, you have to make sure what you take matches your needs, safety profile, and current conditions as they develop.
I probably I'm overreacting, but I'm rather risk adverse so my safety vs reward math looking shaky after reevaluating my current condition.My flushing got better, but has never stopped. My asthma was nearly non-existent, but I've felt the slight beginning of symptoms after I started the protocol. These aren't necessarily concerning signs, but they are signs I need to reevaluate. Especially since I'm barely pinning 100mcg of CJC and IPA and was potentially planning on a 50% increase in the next week or two. My personal desires for better sleep and faster muscle growth don't justify this particular risk when there are alternatives.
I just have to be thankful that I'm not reacting negatively to anything else and stew in jealousy that I'm probably part of the 4-5% of people who's bodies don't like this peptide.
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Most (all?) of the side effects you're currently experiencing are likely coming from the CJC-1295. I'm assuming you have a blend? You can run Ipamorelin solo and get benefits. Might be worth a try to pick up a single vial when you make your next group purchase and experiment.
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Magnesium!
Turns out if you don't need magnesium supplements and are taking them you can have trouble breathing! Which is bad for a lot of reasons, particularly if you have a reason for a hypochondriac response! Only figured that out recently, but it was never very pronounced and I pin at a similar time as I take my vitamins.
I'm switching to sermorelin anyway, but wanted to give this as an FYI. If this was enough to cause me so much stress it's beyond my personal risk level. -
OK, I had to actually look that up. The answer is a ton and frequently. Intramuscularly they could blow through that entire 50mg/50mL bottle within an hour (according to our AI overlords).
An average 1,000 lb horse can take up to 10mL at a time, and may need repeat doses potentially every 5 minutes... -
We recently spoke to our GP and explained that we were researching peptides. After the lengthy lecture and his initial denial, he relented and wrote us a prescription for them. We got a two-pack that came with a practice injector. We keep them in the two places where we commonly inject.
We are obviously very thankful that we have them “just in case”.
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There is a news story making the rounds that actor, Richard Hanson had a Anaphylactic response to injecting CJC + IPA and subsequently passed away.
There are no details yet that I can find indicating where the Peptides came from. They appear to have 'prescribed' by a Health Practitioner etc...
There is some indication that Richard was doubling his dose, which might have also been the problem. Some simple Ai searching did reveal that a CJC+IPA Dose could cause an Anaphylactic response.
This is not the first time I have heard about Anaphylactic reactions to a peptide injection. I have seen more than one post from a user claiming to have experienced anaphylactic shock from a peptide injection. One of them from You Tuber Vigorous Steve who had a reaction to a mega dose of Mots-C and had to be rushed to emergency. The other story was from an Instagram guy who just happened to have an epi pen handy but was also hospitalized.
For those of us with only the best interest of our research lab rats in mind, has anyone considered keeping an Epi-Pen handy..,, in a case where your test rat has a Anaphylactic reaction to a research dose of a peptide.
I know we have a couple around the house for my wifes allergies. I think I am going to become a little more acquainted on how to use it.
Just thought I would add a message from Vigorous Steve on the subject:
Steve's Warnings to the Community
Following the incident, Steve strongly urged caution with research peptides, noting that MOTS-c and growth hormone secretagogues are known to cause severe histamine and anti-drug antibody reactions. He strongly advises against large single doses or rushing injections, emphasizing instead the necessity of consulting medical professionals and understanding the high risk of severe systemic sensitivities associated with these substances.
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