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Caution- amazon 3ml pen vials

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  • RandyR Randy

    @saltyalty they autoclave them in the sweat shop

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    @Randy how sweaty we talking? Also I would prefer if it was children in the sweat shop as they are better workers...

    This is purely sarcastic and a joke

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    • saltyaltyS saltyalty

      @Randy how sweaty we talking? Also I would prefer if it was children in the sweat shop as they are better workers...

      This is purely sarcastic and a joke

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      @saltyalty hahahha.

      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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      • J Juan Doe

        @Randy Sound like an excellent idea for a future video on how to. Because I have a pressure cooker but have no clue what or how "clave" is. Color changing labels etc.

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        Miracita
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        @Juan-Doe Not sure what kind of pressure cooker you have but you can try sterilizing the cartridges in Dynarex Sterilization Pouches and steam in pressure cooker to 250°F at 15PSi for 30 minutes.

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          brandenscheidecker
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          I bought some off of amazon as Peptide critic was out of stock, realized the same thing, went down to my local nail salon got a pedicure and had them throw my vials in their autoclave!

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            Dubbs
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            I only ordered from Amazon because Jeff was out. We'll see what they're like when they come in...

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            • B brandenscheidecker

              I bought some off of amazon as Peptide critic was out of stock, realized the same thing, went down to my local nail salon got a pedicure and had them throw my vials in their autoclave!

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              @brandenscheidecker im gonna start getting my nails done now. 💅🏼

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                @dubbs I have gotten the LaviMD ones from Amazon twice without issue. Always look at the reviews on Amazon, especially look at customer pics. I do order from here when in stock though.
                Lavi MD 3mL Glass Pen Cartridges – 10 Count – Individually Sealed Single-Use Replacement Cartridges – Compatible with Reusable Injection Pens V1 & V2 https://a.co/d/0e13qI1p

                Follows research backed science, not “trust me” bro’s.

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                • RandyR Randy

                  @MyB Thats unfortunate. If they don't take returns clave them in a pressure cooker.

                  I should mention I spent a small fortune figuring out who actually claves these and there's a few companies or resellers that produce the "sterile bags" that wont change color when steam is applied. Im not sure how much money that saves them but it cant be much.

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                  @Randy I know this sounds naive, new to all of this and to pen needle injectors, but we have a pretty nice Tuttnauer clave in our clinic. Can I recycle old cartridges by carefully washing them and throwing them in there? Will it affect the rubber plungers and plugs?

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                    MyB
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                    @gym.rat in the corners of the package is color change squares. One side is the steam and the other is gas. They have writing that states what the color is prior to processing and post processing.

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                    • M mattclayton

                      @Randy I know this sounds naive, new to all of this and to pen needle injectors, but we have a pretty nice Tuttnauer clave in our clinic. Can I recycle old cartridges by carefully washing them and throwing them in there? Will it affect the rubber plungers and plugs?

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                      @mattclayton i would not but i know they do in India...

                      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                        jacobferguson
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                        Another Nub question, but the sterilization the package is confirming is the outside of the vial? So would the inside already be sterile? And if so would using an alcohol wipe on the outside take care of the sterilization of the outside issue?

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                          @jacobferguson the bottle and stopper are inside the sealer package. The package is then ran through an autoclave. If processed properly the color change square turns from blue to black. The stopper/plunger does come out during processing due to pressure. When the package is completely dry the stopper is pushed back into the vial through the package. If the item has been properly sterilized in an autoclave it is sterile inside and out.
                          As soon as you remove the vial from the sealed package the exterior is exposed to air and becomes unsterile, so you clean to top with alcohol every time you insert a needle into the end, either for filling or for use once filled.

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                          • MyBM MyB

                            @jacobferguson the bottle and stopper are inside the sealer package. The package is then ran through an autoclave. If processed properly the color change square turns from blue to black. The stopper/plunger does come out during processing due to pressure. When the package is completely dry the stopper is pushed back into the vial through the package. If the item has been properly sterilized in an autoclave it is sterile inside and out.
                            As soon as you remove the vial from the sealed package the exterior is exposed to air and becomes unsterile, so you clean to top with alcohol every time you insert a needle into the end, either for filling or for use once filled.

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                            jacobferguson
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                            @MyB ok this makes sense and helps my understanding. Thank you!

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                              Im new to this and I was worried after reading through this post. I contacted the vendor I got mine from and this is what he said. What do you guys think?
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                                Ozone only works on tyvek packages. Steam sterilization packages are cellulose material.

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                                  Looking at the package if the process he claims was used the top pink box would have to be yellow right? I mentioned I was new to this and he probably thinks I would buy his response.

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                                    The pink square is chemical sterilization. Chemclave. Ozone is oxygen (O3)
                                    I would think ozone would be an expensive way to sterilize batches of cartridges.

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                                      https://a.co/d/0fuIWg7V
                                      I bought these hope they are ok. Not sure how to tell?

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                                        I’ve gotten vials from a half dozen Amazon vendors to review recently. All the ones with the half circle cut out tab are suspicious to me. The color change area is shiny like ink, like it’s been printed. It doesn’t run with water either. The ones with an elongated cut out tab, and I know area validly processed, the color change areas get lighter if you get it wet.
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                                          I swear I'm just gonna buy me a used autoclave, buy everything in bulk and start sterilizing the cartridges myself.

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