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  • RandyR Randy

    @islander671 nxp-3p 😉

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    @Randy said in Lab vs Lab, We tested 5 Labs using the same Kit.:

    @islander671 nxp-3p 😉 Found it, but I have a question looking at all the coa they all say the mg amount is way over the posted mg in the vial. Do you normally just go what supposed to be in the vial, or some sort of average from lab, or do you have your own buffer you attribute to what you think is in the vial. Thanks

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      @Randy said in Lab vs Lab, We tested 5 Labs using the same Kit.:

      @islander671 nxp-3p 😉 Found it, but I have a question looking at all the coa they all say the mg amount is way over the posted mg in the vial. Do you normally just go what supposed to be in the vial, or some sort of average from lab, or do you have your own buffer you attribute to what you think is in the vial. Thanks

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      @islander671 you go off the coa. Nexaph overfills. Recon based on the overfill. The vials will not have labels

      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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      • RandyR Randy

        New Multi‑Lab COA Deep Dive: Why Test Results Vary Between Labs

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        We just published a new breakdown on a multi‑lab retatrutide test that should be interesting for anyone who actually reads COAs instead of just the bold numbers.

        In this run, the same "Uncle Wang" Retatrutide 10 mg kit from Nexaph was tested by six different labs: AFI, Freedom Diagnostics, Janoshik (vendor and third‑party), TrustPointe Analytics, and Vanguard Laboratory. The labs all agreed on the big picture: identity confirmed as retatrutide and very high purity (roughly 99.7–99.9%+ depending on the report).

        Where things got spicy was the mass / net content. Reported content ranged from about 10.18 mg up to 12.80 mg per vial, with some labs clustering low (AFI, Vanguard) and others higher (Freedom, TrustPointe, Janoshik). Instead of treating that spread as “who’s lying,” we walk through why those numbers can legitimately differ across methods, calibration curves, sample prep, vial selection, and how each lab defines and calculates content.

        https://peptidecritic.com/blog/why-test-results-vary-between-labs-multi-lab-coa-comparison

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        @Randy where can i get “wangs peptides” for randys nephew?

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          @Randy where can i get “wangs peptides” for randys nephew?

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          @hectoraponte Unc Wang only does limited runs of 10 bottles at a time...or i bought a sticker maker.

          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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            Excellent article!!! Probably one of the most useful and relevant I have read to date. Many thanks to you guys for putting in the time and effort to educate others with great unbiased information in a format that is easy to comprehend. Love the labels!

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              Wow! Very nice article! Love the info and work!

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                cyst3m
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                @randy, thank you sir

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                  This is a great article, thanks for doing the research, it is truly helpful!!!

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                  • RandyR Randy

                    New Multi‑Lab COA Deep Dive: Why Test Results Vary Between Labs

                    infographic Lab v Lab.png

                    We just published a new breakdown on a multi‑lab retatrutide test that should be interesting for anyone who actually reads COAs instead of just the bold numbers.

                    In this run, the same "Uncle Wang" Retatrutide 10 mg kit from Nexaph was tested by six different labs: AFI, Freedom Diagnostics, Janoshik (vendor and third‑party), TrustPointe Analytics, and Vanguard Laboratory. The labs all agreed on the big picture: identity confirmed as retatrutide and very high purity (roughly 99.7–99.9%+ depending on the report).

                    Where things got spicy was the mass / net content. Reported content ranged from about 10.18 mg up to 12.80 mg per vial, with some labs clustering low (AFI, Vanguard) and others higher (Freedom, TrustPointe, Janoshik). Instead of treating that spread as “who’s lying,” we walk through why those numbers can legitimately differ across methods, calibration curves, sample prep, vial selection, and how each lab defines and calculates content.

                    https://peptidecritic.com/blog/why-test-results-vary-between-labs-multi-lab-coa-comparison

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                    @Randy Being in this space has taught me so much about “all things researching peptides “. I am grateful for the Youtube videos also which brought me here. I had to look in my freezer after reading all the COA’s on the Reta. Coincidentally, I just purchased that same green crimp ring with the transparent purple cap of a 10mg kit of Reta from Nexaph. Oh yes, and found Nexaph on this space too. Thanks Jeff/Randy 👏

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                    • RandyR Randy

                      @hectoraponte Unc Wang only does limited runs of 10 bottles at a time...or i bought a sticker maker.

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                      @Randy The second is my guess as Nexaph vials come unlabeled with a QR code on the box of 10??? My labels definitely aren’t fancy but I am learning

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                        @Randy where can i get “wangs peptides” for randys nephew?

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                        @hectoraponte said in Lab vs Lab, We tested 5 Labs using the same Kit.:

                        @Randy where can i get “wangs peptides” for randys nephew?

                        Same!!!

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                          @Randy The second is my guess as Nexaph vials come unlabeled with a QR code on the box of 10??? My labels definitely aren’t fancy but I am learning

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                          @beachfun We have a second kit of this we are using for some other degridation tests. Lio'd on a windowsill, in the fridge and in the glove box of my truck. Check back in 3 months.

                          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                          • RandyR Randy

                            @hectoraponte Unc Wang only does limited runs of 10 bottles at a time...or i bought a sticker maker.

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                            Thank you randy!😉

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                              @beachfun We have a second kit of this we are using for some other degridation tests. Lio'd on a windowsill, in the fridge and in the glove box of my truck. Check back in 3 months.

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                              Randy My kit is in the freezer waiting…that’s great!

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                              • R rogerp

                                I just watched a video that said the true way to test if a product is what it actually is sold as is to have it tested with Liquid Chromatography-Mass Spectrometer (LC-MS) to actually tell if it actually the correct peptide. I thought that is what a purity test covered, but looking at this image above, I guess I am wrong.

                                What vendors are tested like that and what testing labs are actually using this? I see Freedom might be, if I am reading that right.

                                I apologies in advance, new to COA process and trying to learn more on it.

                                video that I randomly came across:
                                https://youtu.be/lHUOLJHiJzA?si=9P0QJVayqogka9fc&t=488

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                                @rogerp thanks for posting this -- did you find an LC-MS lab?

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                                  @rogerp thanks for posting this -- did you find an LC-MS lab?

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                                  @smash4000 said:

                                  @rogerp thanks for posting this -- did you find an LC-MS lab?

                                  Looks like Freedom uses it. I need to research this more.

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                                    Very helpful.. Thank you

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                                      @randy Do you think kits are ever mixed?
                                      I have the mind set that it’s just business and people in china are doing the right thing… I still pin it anyway

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                                        @randy Do you think kits are ever mixed?
                                        I have the mind set that it’s just business and people in china are doing the right thing… I still pin it anyway

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                                        @jimmy4407th what do you mean, mixed?

                                        "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                        • RandyR Randy

                                          @jimmy4407th what do you mean, mixed?

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                                          @Randy I should have clarified. Different patches in one kit.

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