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NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn

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    Commander
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    I bought some NAD+ Buffered from Nexaph. I currently take MOTS-C (I also take KLOW) and absolutely love it. It has changed my life. I heard that adding NAD+ to MOTS-C “supercharges” it. I also heard NAD+ Buffered still stings like a bitch.
    I want to give it a try. I was thinking of adding in 25mg NAD+ M - W - F. Wondering about people’s thoughts on if 25mg three times a week will do anything.
    I was also going to Recon my 500mg vial with 5ml BAC. I also heard of reconing 500mg vial with 4ml BAC and 1ml lidocaine. Not sure where to buy lidocaine .
    Thoughts?

    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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      Commander
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      Anyone know where to buy the lidocaine to mix in with it?

      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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        @ResearchCat
        Did you have the 500mg kit? If you did, how much BAC did you add?

        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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          @michaelatherley
          Is there a reason not to use it on the same days as MOTS-C or is it just a preference?

          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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            PeptidePete
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            While when I started out I pinned much lower Doses and pinned on different days, I now pin both 2.5mg mots and 100-125mg NAD on the same day, love it. I would urge anyone to not research that aggressively when starting out , there are also reports of high dose mots 10+mg in some small group of people causing near anaphylactic reaction . I've never experienced that but it can give you some strange Sensations at high doses when you're not used to it.

            Mots frequently gives many people isr's, welts swelling, redness, bumps. It did that for me the first few weeks I researched with it, I'm fully used to it now and I have no reaction whatsoever. Many researchers preload with an antihistamine of their choice.

            If you also research a popular material that cannot be discussed here the mots is a critical part of that protocol so as to to refine glucose levels and insulin sensitivity. Anyone who has not already optimized their diet to remove all the stupid stuff such as carbohydrates , sugar, alcohol is wasting their time. Research is your friend to fully understand.

            As with any stack the key is identifying why you want to do what you are thinking of doing and then researching the heck out of the options 🤔🙂

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            • P PeptidePete

              While when I started out I pinned much lower Doses and pinned on different days, I now pin both 2.5mg mots and 100-125mg NAD on the same day, love it. I would urge anyone to not research that aggressively when starting out , there are also reports of high dose mots 10+mg in some small group of people causing near anaphylactic reaction . I've never experienced that but it can give you some strange Sensations at high doses when you're not used to it.

              Mots frequently gives many people isr's, welts swelling, redness, bumps. It did that for me the first few weeks I researched with it, I'm fully used to it now and I have no reaction whatsoever. Many researchers preload with an antihistamine of their choice.

              If you also research a popular material that cannot be discussed here the mots is a critical part of that protocol so as to to refine glucose levels and insulin sensitivity. Anyone who has not already optimized their diet to remove all the stupid stuff such as carbohydrates , sugar, alcohol is wasting their time. Research is your friend to fully understand.

              As with any stack the key is identifying why you want to do what you are thinking of doing and then researching the heck out of the options 🤔🙂

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              @PeptidePete
              I don’t understand what you mean by a popular material that can’t be discussed here…

              Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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              • C Commander

                @PeptidePete
                I don’t understand what you mean by a popular material that can’t be discussed here…

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                @Commander said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                @PeptidePete
                I don’t understand what you mean by a popular material that can’t be discussed here…

                Hey Girl Hey

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                • P PeptidePete

                  @Commander said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                  @PeptidePete
                  I don’t understand what you mean by a popular material that can’t be discussed here…

                  Hey Girl Hey

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                  @PeptidePete
                  I didn’t see anything that said that couldn’t be talked about… maybe I am missing something

                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                    @michaelatherley
                    Is there a reason not to use it on the same days as MOTS-C or is it just a preference?

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                    @Commander just a preference. Never tried them together. Might have to try them on the same day to see how it goes.

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                      Ss,Mots and NAD FTW

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                      • P PeptidePete

                        While when I started out I pinned much lower Doses and pinned on different days, I now pin both 2.5mg mots and 100-125mg NAD on the same day, love it. I would urge anyone to not research that aggressively when starting out , there are also reports of high dose mots 10+mg in some small group of people causing near anaphylactic reaction . I've never experienced that but it can give you some strange Sensations at high doses when you're not used to it.

                        Mots frequently gives many people isr's, welts swelling, redness, bumps. It did that for me the first few weeks I researched with it, I'm fully used to it now and I have no reaction whatsoever. Many researchers preload with an antihistamine of their choice.

                        If you also research a popular material that cannot be discussed here the mots is a critical part of that protocol so as to to refine glucose levels and insulin sensitivity. Anyone who has not already optimized their diet to remove all the stupid stuff such as carbohydrates , sugar, alcohol is wasting their time. Research is your friend to fully understand.

                        As with any stack the key is identifying why you want to do what you are thinking of doing and then researching the heck out of the options 🤔🙂

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                        Tim Cheese
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                        @PeptidePete KPV is great for mitigating the ISR’s, among the other benefits.

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                          If it was not buffered; then you should worry about a sting! But Buffered NAD is easy peasy; MOTS-c burns way more.

                          Truly I would just recon it with 5ml Bac for 500mg …. But I currently have 1000mg and recon with 8ml Bac

                          I do MOTS-c 5mg on M W F & NAD 100mg on T Th Sa.

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                            If it was not buffered; then you should worry about a sting! But Buffered NAD is easy peasy; MOTS-c burns way more.

                            Truly I would just recon it with 5ml Bac for 500mg …. But I currently have 1000mg and recon with 8ml Bac

                            I do MOTS-c 5mg on M W F & NAD 100mg on T Th Sa.

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                            @hay_bayls said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                            If it was not buffered; then you should worry about a sting! But Buffered NAD is easy peasy; MOTS-c burns way more.

                            Truly I would just recon it with 5ml Bac for 500mg …. But I currently have 1000mg and recon with 8ml Bac

                            I do MOTS-c 5mg on M W F & NAD 100mg on T Th Sa.

                            If you recon with 5ml, how many iu are you taking at one time?

                            Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                              Gluthathion and NAD is a good combo also

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                                @hay_bayls said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                If it was not buffered; then you should worry about a sting! But Buffered NAD is easy peasy; MOTS-c burns way more.

                                Truly I would just recon it with 5ml Bac for 500mg …. But I currently have 1000mg and recon with 8ml Bac

                                I do MOTS-c 5mg on M W F & NAD 100mg on T Th Sa.

                                If you recon with 5ml, how many iu are you taking at one time?

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                                @Commander said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                @hay_bayls said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                If it was not buffered; then you should worry about a sting! But Buffered NAD is easy peasy; MOTS-c burns way more.

                                Truly I would just recon it with 5ml Bac for 500mg …. But I currently have 1000mg and recon with 8ml Bac

                                I do MOTS-c 5mg on M W F & NAD 100mg on T Th Sa.

                                If you recon with 5ml, how many iu are you taking at one time?

                                You want to participate in "the game", and that's awesome, you must for your own good get up to speed on fundamentals. I say this in the nicest possible way. Hit me with a down arrow and GFY reply if you like ✌

                                https://btpepcalc.com

                                https://peptidedosages.com/dosages/ (and obviously the protocols that are offered here on this forum which are superb! I have learned a lot from many of them)

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                                  @PeptidePete
                                  I didn’t see anything that said that couldn’t be talked about… maybe I am missing something

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                                  @Commander said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                  @PeptidePete
                                  I didn’t see anything that said that couldn’t be talked about… maybe I am missing something

                                  I clarified with mgt in different post, your are correct in regards to HGH. All good!

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                                    @Commander said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                    @hay_bayls said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                    If it was not buffered; then you should worry about a sting! But Buffered NAD is easy peasy; MOTS-c burns way more.

                                    Truly I would just recon it with 5ml Bac for 500mg …. But I currently have 1000mg and recon with 8ml Bac

                                    I do MOTS-c 5mg on M W F & NAD 100mg on T Th Sa.

                                    If you recon with 5ml, how many iu are you taking at one time?

                                    You want to participate in "the game", and that's awesome, you must for your own good get up to speed on fundamentals. I say this in the nicest possible way. Hit me with a down arrow and GFY reply if you like ✌

                                    https://btpepcalc.com

                                    https://peptidedosages.com/dosages/ (and obviously the protocols that are offered here on this forum which are superb! I have learned a lot from many of them)

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                                    @PeptidePete said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                    @Commander said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                    @hay_bayls said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                    If it was not buffered; then you should worry about a sting! But Buffered NAD is easy peasy; MOTS-c burns way more.

                                    Truly I would just recon it with 5ml Bac for 500mg …. But I currently have 1000mg and recon with 8ml Bac

                                    I do MOTS-c 5mg on M W F & NAD 100mg on T Th Sa.

                                    If you recon with 5ml, how many iu are you taking at one time?

                                    You want to participate in "the game", and that's awesome, you must for your own good get up to speed on fundamentals. I say this in the nicest possible way. Hit me with a down arrow and GFY reply if you like ✌

                                    https://btpepcalc.com

                                    https://peptidedosages.com/dosages/ (and obviously the protocols that are offered here on this forum which are superb! I have learned a lot from many of them)
                                    I really didn’t understand this post. What are you talking about.
                                    My question is if you are reconing with that that much BAC water, how big is the shot you are taking?

                                    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                      @hay_bayls said in NAD+ Buffered. How much will be effective with burn:

                                      If it was not buffered; then you should worry about a sting! But Buffered NAD is easy peasy; MOTS-c burns way more.

                                      Truly I would just recon it with 5ml Bac for 500mg …. But I currently have 1000mg and recon with 8ml Bac

                                      I do MOTS-c 5mg on M W F & NAD 100mg on T Th Sa.

                                      If you recon with 5ml, how many iu are you taking at one time?

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                                      hay_bayls
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                                      @Commander

                                      If you reconned 500mg with 5ml; you’d have 50iu injections for 50mg or 100iu injections for 100mg.

                                      My 1000mg vial is 80iu for 100mg

                                      But lido stings too… so you might as well just add the extra 1ml of BAC and dilute it more than add 1ml of lido

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                                        Gluthathion and NAD is a good combo also

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                                        @Nugzz49 I love Glutathione! I take 400mg IM 3x a week before bed, and 150mg of NAD+ 3x a week right after I wake up.

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                                          I bought some NAD+ Buffered from Nexaph. I currently take MOTS-C (I also take KLOW) and absolutely love it. It has changed my life. I heard that adding NAD+ to MOTS-C “supercharges” it. I also heard NAD+ Buffered still stings like a bitch.
                                          I want to give it a try. I was thinking of adding in 25mg NAD+ M - W - F. Wondering about people’s thoughts on if 25mg three times a week will do anything.
                                          I was also going to Recon my 500mg vial with 5ml BAC. I also heard of reconing 500mg vial with 4ml BAC and 1ml lidocaine. Not sure where to buy lidocaine .
                                          Thoughts?

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                                          gym.rat
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                                          @Commander You'll be fine with buffered NAD. The non buffered is what I bought not realizing at the time there was a buffered version and my ass was on fire. Not doing that again. Tried it in the glute and maybe that is just a bad spot for me. My other rat did the belly and was fine. Point being I think buffered you're fine at 3 or 5ml.

                                          Not to jack your thread, but I'd like to know why you love KLOW and if not too much to disclose what vendor did you use? I have my preferred vendors but I like to know how others make out when it comes to various products at various vendors for my own note taking.

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