Nexaph CJC/Ipa Test Results - A Lot Lower Than Janoshik’s
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The SNP Telegram group just booted me for posting those results.
I am starting to realize that too many people in these Telegram groups and boards have a vested interest not to have clear transparent information out there. I mean arguing with me about a test report is crazy.
It is simple, we always say test your peptides, but why would we do that if we simply didn’t believe the results that we got or didn’t share them. It is more like- only tell us if it is favorable to us, otherwise keep your mouth shut or we will ban you or try to discredit you.
The peptide space unfortunately is not an unbias place and too many people have a steak in the game…@Commander You were not booted for your questions or your concerns, you were booted for insulting people who did not agree with you. ALL of your posts are all still there. I was there and watching and reading. I understood your concerns but you did not have to insult people when they did not share your outrage. You wanted others to share your view and when they didn't you insulted them. That was the line you crossed and it got you booted.
I agree that your results are interesting and show an underfill. I don't take vendor COA showing overfill as gospel truth. I try to average as many test results as possible. But your test is still just one vial out of possibly 1000's.
Any of my kits can have that range of fill. I understand that about grey.
I feel like what you want is an answer from Cain. So reach out to Cain.
But insulting people because they don't side with you doesn't help your cause. -
@Randy
10% up or down is actually what I was expecting. I am not good at match, but I think this test is about 40+% difference. Someone said it was 142% different. Again, I am not good at math, but that seems high.
I will also say it again. Even the numbers that the Freedom test came back with I am fine with, I will still order from Nexaph. I just don’t like the inconsistency with the lab results. I think that is a lab problem. I used Feedom because I found their info on this site and they are in the USA.
I would love to get to the bottom of why there is such a big difference in the numbers. But sadly I have come to the conclusion that it is not worth the effort and there are better things for me to spend my money on…
The next batch of my peptides I send for testing I will use one of the other labs you have listed on this site. I definitely won’t be posting those results. But you have said time and time again on here, test your stuff. I think that is the best advice. Everyone needs to actually spend their money and have their own stuff tested. Then they can decide if the trust the stuff or not.@Commander If I had unlimited resources I would send use a whole kit and send one vial to each lab and compare all the results. It is my understanding that due to lab differences it would be nearly impossible for them to all match. But it would be very interesting to see head to head results all from the same kit.
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@Commander You were not booted for your questions or your concerns, you were booted for insulting people who did not agree with you. ALL of your posts are all still there. I was there and watching and reading. I understood your concerns but you did not have to insult people when they did not share your outrage. You wanted others to share your view and when they didn't you insulted them. That was the line you crossed and it got you booted.
I agree that your results are interesting and show an underfill. I don't take vendor COA showing overfill as gospel truth. I try to average as many test results as possible. But your test is still just one vial out of possibly 1000's.
Any of my kits can have that range of fill. I understand that about grey.
I feel like what you want is an answer from Cain. So reach out to Cain.
But insulting people because they don't side with you doesn't help your cause.@burner1
They were insulting me. I asked questions. Like How do you come up with “the entire peptide community says Janoshik is the gold standard”
That is the equivalent of when someone says “they always say that”, I always ask who “they are”, never once got an answer. Too many people just repeat stuff they here on the internet, once it repeated so many times people think it is true. I never accept that. They were very aggressive to me I think Janoshik and Nexaph are bad. I never said one time Nexaph was bad. I said there, I say at Peepy’s and I say here, I love the Nexaph products.
My concern is the variation in lab reports… Freedom is listed on this site. That is why I used them. -
@Commander If I had unlimited resources I would send use a whole kit and send one vial to each lab and compare all the results. It is my understanding that due to lab differences it would be nearly impossible for them to all match. But it would be very interesting to see head to head results all from the same kit.
@commander @burner1 two pick a compound (no ss31). ill order it and get mass/purity from four labs. GLP or bpc would be my vote
"If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"
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@commander @burner1 two pick a compound (no ss31). ill order it and get mass/purity from four labs. GLP or bpc would be my vote
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@commander @burner1 two pick a compound (no ss31). ill order it and get mass/purity from four labs. GLP or bpc would be my vote
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@commander @burner1 two pick a compound (no ss31). ill order it and get mass/purity from four labs. GLP or bpc would be my vote
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@Randy love that you’re willing to do this!
Although I don’t think it’ll give us answers as to “why” different labs test differently … it’ll be interesting to see!
@hay_bayls said in Nexaph CJC/Ipa Test Results - A Lot Lower Than Janoshik’s:
@Randy love that you’re willing to do this!
Although I don’t think it’ll give us answers as to “why” different labs test differently … it’ll be interesting to see!
It may on. But if 3 out of the 4 are close, then maybe the oddball we might want to look out for in the future.
I don’t Freedom is an oddball always test low lab. Puratex sends their stuff to Freedom and I use their stuff too. My 40mg MOTS-C was tested at about 49mg from Freedom. If they had some weird testing protocol that always tested low, my MOTS-C would be Super MOTS-C!! -
@Randy
How about Rets and Mots-C?
Reta is considered GLP, right?Also I would like to contribute to the cost some.
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@Commander mots is niche and a lower purity is usually accepted. It does degrade quicker in lio'd form than a glp.
Ive ordered a kit of reta from nexaph. Stay tuned.
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Just an update..
I did email Cain a few days ago. He never replied to me. I have copied and paste my email to him below. As I am always the one that gets accused of being the aggressive one and the “hater” I wanted everyone to see what I emailed him so I don’t get reply post that say “ he probably didn’t reply because you insulted him or bla bla bla”
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Cain,
Attached are test results from Freedom for a vial of Nexaph CJC 5mg/5mg (CJCIPA502222026-07). As you’ll see, these results differ significantly from the ones reported by Janoshik for the same batch. The size of that discrepancy is concerning.
I want to be clear—this isn’t a complaint about your product. I’ve had a great experience overall and continue to trust what you offer. That said, I make a point to verify what I’m using, and consistency in testing matters.
There have long been rumors that Janoshik may present more favorable results for repeat clients, whether intentional or not. I’m not claiming that’s the case here, but the difference between these reports raises questions.
From a practical standpoint, it’s also worth considering why testing is being done overseas when there are reputable labs in the U.S. Additionally, while I appreciate that you support third-party testing, relying on the same lab each time somewhat defeats the purpose of independent verification. It’s similar to seeking a second opinion from the same doctor.
Again, I value your products and plan to continue purchasing, but I wanted to share this perspective because the situation doesn’t reflect well at face value.
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Testing is being done overseas because jano has been around for a decade and they dont make your samples sit for a month before getting to them.
Freedom, chromate and trustpointe have all had month long backups on testing before. Jano just gets it done. Im no fan of jano but thats the reality.
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@randy Could you please follow me so I can send you a chat about testing? I'm struggling to find a lab to test an inbound order.
"If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"
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@Randy They arent accepting new orders
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@Randy They arent accepting new orders
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@randy I reached out to Vanguard Labs, they want $250 per vial. Is that reasonable?
Is it Finnrick or Janoshik that is free? I have some time, I dont mind waiting a month or so.
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