GHK Cycle
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There are a few doctors on youtube (Dr. Alex Tatem and Dr. Ashley) who both say that ghk-cu are "well-tolerated" in the body, but I've also read horrible stories about people getting painful welts, swelling, and other reactions from taking it, which freaks me out a little. Are you taking it primarily for skin/hair benefits or to promote healing? I've also heard that you need to take a zinc supplement if you're taking GHK-Cu? There seem to be so many contradictions about this one !
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Forum blocks my "likes" after 20 per day <sad face> You all are funny..lol
Look, there is a case also to be made that signaling on a genetic level does not benefit from dosing more frequently than once every one or two days. Is a whisper sufficient? Or frequent shouts more effective? We just don't know because there are no human case studies.
With that said I observed no evidence that heroic doses cause any deleterious effects. N=1 for what that's worth, ya know? Did not notice blue tinting either, but that would be kind of cool. "No tats or piercings but I am blue"...haha!
65 year old hands today. Remember I live in Nevada with 10% typical humidity. Thank FLGR242 for the increased vascularity (different thread).
As previously mentioned, based on no hard evidence whatsoever, it is my opinion GHK subq may be a very beneficial agent for us older folks. Only time will tell.
Also, go do a search for the speed at which skin cells turnover, that is one very compelling reason I do not cycle. Make sense?
Cheers-
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Oh- as noted in the "other" GHK thread- Pain.
Absolutely injection site specific! I hit the wrong spot, it hurts sometime for 24-36 hours. To the extent it can wake me up at night.
BUT you have to find the spot that is right for YOU. For me the sides or especially good is upper half or upper sides of butt cheeks. That is my go-to area. If you don't find the right spot, it is too painful to maintain a regimen.
I use a Gansulin pen with BD Nano 2nd Gen Pen Needles, 4mm x 32G FWIW.
Also I dilute a 100mg vial with 6ml water. There are multiple ways to make that happen, figure out what works for you. I use that example only as a dilution ratio reference not a reconstitution/dosing reference! So many reconstitution calculators for folks to use, that is a foundational skill for any researcher.
ALSO....lol...the pain is not an indication of damage being done. It feels like acid is dissolving your flesh, but it is not and your flesh is a-ok...lol
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There are a few doctors on youtube (Dr. Alex Tatem and Dr. Ashley) who both say that ghk-cu are "well-tolerated" in the body, but I've also read horrible stories about people getting painful welts, swelling, and other reactions from taking it, which freaks me out a little. Are you taking it primarily for skin/hair benefits or to promote healing? I've also heard that you need to take a zinc supplement if you're taking GHK-Cu? There seem to be so many contradictions about this one !
Are you taking it primarily for skin/hair benefits or to promote healing? I've also heard that you need to take a zinc supplement if you're taking GHK-Cu? There seem to be so many contradictions about this one !
Zinc supplementation w/GHK = bro science. No basis, if you find one please post it and let us know? Zinc is great for those who are deficient, but AGAIN, the copper in GHK is BOUND, it is not affecting your copper levels. Important to understand this!
Research the 3000 gene upregulations. Hair/skin is 2/3000. To understand is to be stunned. Go deep.
YouTube/IG/etc is 99.9% worse than worthless recycled BS. Kristi Sawicki is good and I respect her. She is on the verge of "selling out" though...lol
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@peptidepete It’s a slow day when i don’t cap my like limit by noon.
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@peptidepete encouraged me, lol I guess I am easily swayed.
I am taking it for skin and hair, mainly. I am a 10 year breast cancer survivor who had 1.5 years of very harsh treatments. One of my drugs was called the Red Devil and it lived up to it's name. I am currently, thankfully, considered No Evidence of Disease, which is as good as it gets for TNBC. However, cancer being the gift that keeps on giving, I have had problems from the treatments. The skin on my arms became very thin, it bruises and tears easily. That has been greatly improved the past 6 months! I have noticed my facial lines are reduced, so that was a plus, too. My hair took about 5 months to respond. I lost all my hair to chemo and it grew back about 70%. I had a few spots where it didn't grow back. My hairstylist hid it very well. My hair is growing like a weed now and it looks very healthy. The best part, I have hair growing in the previous bald spots. It's very exciting!
Lately I am dealing with the skin that was damaged from radiation. I had 33 regular treatments and 5 "targeted boosts" at the end It just ruins the skin (no brainer though - radiation and live - easy choice). Last fall my reconstructed implant ruptured (manufacture recall on product, yay me!) and now I am dealing with silicone damage on the inside. That skin developed cellulitis after my January surgery. I am going to have to have another surgery in the next few weeks, because of this. I don't think that the GHK-cu will help that area, but you never know!
I always laugh that I am the healthiest sick person around. I am fit and very active. I have been a fitness instructor on the side for 30 years.
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2 different research subjects in my house. RS1-experienced the sting twice the first week. I'm not going to sugar coat it, as Peptidepete that said "it stung like a bitch" , and it did, but eventually subsided. Top of the thigh is a no go for me. I switched course found better sites and a different method for injecting.
RS2- experienced no pain, bragged about it even, laughed at me when I was in pain, thought I was exaggerating lol UNTIL the 29th night, he decided to try the inner thigh. 'Bout 2am I heard a very shrill sound, had no idea his voice could go that high. I tried to be sympathetic, I really did, but the only thing that came out of my mouth was the devil incarnate got ya huh? LOL
Everyone reacts differently. I hope you have a good experience
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@peptidepete encouraged me, lol I guess I am easily swayed.
I am taking it for skin and hair, mainly. I am a 10 year breast cancer survivor who had 1.5 years of very harsh treatments. One of my drugs was called the Red Devil and it lived up to it's name. I am currently, thankfully, considered No Evidence of Disease, which is as good as it gets for TNBC. However, cancer being the gift that keeps on giving, I have had problems from the treatments. The skin on my arms became very thin, it bruises and tears easily. That has been greatly improved the past 6 months! I have noticed my facial lines are reduced, so that was a plus, too. My hair took about 5 months to respond. I lost all my hair to chemo and it grew back about 70%. I had a few spots where it didn't grow back. My hairstylist hid it very well. My hair is growing like a weed now and it looks very healthy. The best part, I have hair growing in the previous bald spots. It's very exciting!
Lately I am dealing with the skin that was damaged from radiation. I had 33 regular treatments and 5 "targeted boosts" at the end It just ruins the skin (no brainer though - radiation and live - easy choice). Last fall my reconstructed implant ruptured (manufacture recall on product, yay me!) and now I am dealing with silicone damage on the inside. That skin developed cellulitis after my January surgery. I am going to have to have another surgery in the next few weeks, because of this. I don't think that the GHK-cu will help that area, but you never know!
I always laugh that I am the healthiest sick person around. I am fit and very active. I have been a fitness instructor on the side for 30 years.
@peptidepete encouraged me, lol I guess I am easily swayed.
I am taking it for skin and hair, mainly. I am a 10 year breast cancer survivor who had 1.5 years of very harsh treatments. One of my drugs was called the Red Devil and it lived up to it's name. I am currently, thankfully, considered No Evidence of Disease, which is as good as it gets for TNBC. However, cancer being the gift that keeps on giving, I have had problems from the treatments. The skin on my arms became very thin, it bruises and tears easily. That has been greatly improved the past 6 months! I have noticed my facial lines are reduced, so that was a plus, too. My hair took about 5 months to respond. I lost all my hair to chemo and it grew back about 70%. I had a few spots where it didn't grow back. My hairstylist hid it very well. My hair is growing like a weed now and it looks very healthy. The best part, I have hair growing in the previous bald spots. It's very exciting!
Lately I am dealing with the skin that was damaged from radiation. I had 33 regular treatments and 5 "targeted boosts" at the end It just ruins the skin (no brainer though - radiation and live - easy choice). Last fall my reconstructed implant ruptured (manufacture recall on product, yay me!) and now I am dealing with silicone damage on the inside. That skin developed cellulitis after my January surgery. I am going to have to have another surgery in the next few weeks, because of this. I don't think that the GHK-cu will help that area, but you never know!
I always laugh that I am the healthiest sick person around. I am fit and very active. I have been a fitness instructor on the side for 30 years.
I gotta say, this kinda took my breath way. You have been through ALOT, you're a Warrior!
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@peptidepete encouraged me, lol I guess I am easily swayed.
I am taking it for skin and hair, mainly. I am a 10 year breast cancer survivor who had 1.5 years of very harsh treatments. One of my drugs was called the Red Devil and it lived up to it's name. I am currently, thankfully, considered No Evidence of Disease, which is as good as it gets for TNBC. However, cancer being the gift that keeps on giving, I have had problems from the treatments. The skin on my arms became very thin, it bruises and tears easily. That has been greatly improved the past 6 months! I have noticed my facial lines are reduced, so that was a plus, too. My hair took about 5 months to respond. I lost all my hair to chemo and it grew back about 70%. I had a few spots where it didn't grow back. My hairstylist hid it very well. My hair is growing like a weed now and it looks very healthy. The best part, I have hair growing in the previous bald spots. It's very exciting!
Lately I am dealing with the skin that was damaged from radiation. I had 33 regular treatments and 5 "targeted boosts" at the end It just ruins the skin (no brainer though - radiation and live - easy choice). Last fall my reconstructed implant ruptured (manufacture recall on product, yay me!) and now I am dealing with silicone damage on the inside. That skin developed cellulitis after my January surgery. I am going to have to have another surgery in the next few weeks, because of this. I don't think that the GHK-cu will help that area, but you never know!
I always laugh that I am the healthiest sick person around. I am fit and very active. I have been a fitness instructor on the side for 30 years.
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@peptidepete Your dilution ratio is much higher than I’m currently using. I will try this, thx!!
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Alright, @peptidepete you have shown me some very weak gaps in my research, learning in progress
I was up before the butt crack of dawn, and went down the rabbit hole. You are 100% accurate, what I found was eye opening to say the least. Thank you for sharing your insight and knowledge! -
Alright, @peptidepete you have shown me some very weak gaps in my research, learning in progress
I was up before the butt crack of dawn, and went down the rabbit hole. You are 100% accurate, what I found was eye opening to say the least. Thank you for sharing your insight and knowledge!Alright, @peptidepete you have shown me some very weak gaps in my research, learning in progress
I was up before the butt crack of dawn, and went down the rabbit hole. You are 100% accurate, what I found was eye opening to say the least. Thank you for sharing your insight and knowledge!That is so awesome! Very glad to read this.
The reason I don't "spoon feed" answers is exactly this! The personal discovery of "oh holy shit I did not know that! SO COOL" is priceless. Never trust anyone with an affiliate code or telling you "facts" because 99.9% of yappers know JS.
I have zero to sell, don't "coach", have no YouTube, nothing. I just love to to discover that with helps me fight the "system" that is otherwise designed for one thing- to keep me weak and sick.
Onward upward!
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@peptidepete It’s a slow day when i don’t cap my like limit by noon.
@ResearchCat said in GHK Cycle:
@peptidepete It’s a slow day when i don’t cap my like limit by noon.
LOL! Right?
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2 different research subjects in my house. RS1-experienced the sting twice the first week. I'm not going to sugar coat it, as Peptidepete that said "it stung like a bitch" , and it did, but eventually subsided. Top of the thigh is a no go for me. I switched course found better sites and a different method for injecting.
RS2- experienced no pain, bragged about it even, laughed at me when I was in pain, thought I was exaggerating lol UNTIL the 29th night, he decided to try the inner thigh. 'Bout 2am I heard a very shrill sound, had no idea his voice could go that high. I tried to be sympathetic, I really did, but the only thing that came out of my mouth was the devil incarnate got ya huh? LOL
Everyone reacts differently. I hope you have a good experience
@WisGal64
INNER THIGH?!?!?!?
That's just asking for pain.Where are you poking?
I do the back of the rat's lil shoulders, beside the knee his caps {inner and outer}, and the hips where they hinge.
My main focus in on the soft tissue repair and I find doing this the night before the morning work out that focus' in that areas does wonders for the rest of the day as opposed to doing it that night. -
@WisGal64
INNER THIGH?!?!?!?
That's just asking for pain.Where are you poking?
I do the back of the rat's lil shoulders, beside the knee his caps {inner and outer}, and the hips where they hinge.
My main focus in on the soft tissue repair and I find doing this the night before the morning work out that focus' in that areas does wonders for the rest of the day as opposed to doing it that night.@Stan-Douglas said in GHK Cycle:
@WisGal64
INNER THIGH?!?!?!?
That's just asking for pain.Where are you poking?
I do the back of the rat's lil shoulders, beside the knee his caps {inner and outer}, and the hips where they hinge.
My main focus in on the soft tissue repair and I find doing this the night before the morning work out that focus' in that areas does wonders for the rest of the day as opposed to doing it that night.I tried to tell him it was a bad idea lol
I learned the hard way too. I did it on the top of my rat’s thigh only once, that was my first encounter with the devil incarnate. Now rotate between hips and outer thighs, working well so far.
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