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Combining Mots & SS31 in a Syringe - any known issues ?

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  • C Commander

    I wish there was a list if peptides that could be combined into one pen cartridge. I feel like a pin cushion with taking all these shots.
    There are clearly some that can be combined into. I mean we have GLOW and KLOW and they are fine…..

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      @hay_bayls
      How reliable do you think that chart is? Also do they mean in same shot or can be mixed in same vial and then left for a month?

      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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        @hay_bayls
        How reliable do you think that chart is? Also do they mean in same shot or can be mixed in same vial and then left for a month?

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        @Commander I've seen the chart floating around for quite some time... I think the chart is referring to mixing in a vial tho

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          Interesting that the chart doesn't include SS-31

          This morning, I mixed SS-31 and Mots into a syringe, Peptide Critic style

          Both Peptides seemed to mix together without issue

          Research Rat received blended peptide dose without issue.

          I guess we need to update the chart.

          Next week we will be researching AOD-9604 , hopefully I can get it re-constituted without any problems.

          Assuming the reconstitution process works will be trying to blend AOD-9604, Mots, SS31 in a single dose syringe.

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            @hay_bayls

            This graph basically says dont mix GLP with any other peptide. But doesn't say anything about mixing Tirz with Retatrutide for example.

            I'm tapering down test rats Tirzepetide while moving to reta. Since i dont want to jump too quickly on the glucagon arm of reta. So the default dose was 7.5mg tirz. It is now doing 2.5mg tirz + 1mg reta. And i want to do that for 4 weeks, then up reta to 2mg of 4 weeks. then prob titrate down tirz further as i increase the reta.

            I just mixed a pen cartridge with that ratio of tirz/reta. It looks completely clear and good. But i havent injected it yet.

            I've seen tirz/reta stacks being sold, so i've assumed its ok. I know theres a lot of people talking about you shouldnt stack them. But imo thats mostly concerns about stacking so the combined effect is bigger than max dose. But i'm looking at the lower dose end.

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              Interesting that the chart doesn't include SS-31

              This morning, I mixed SS-31 and Mots into a syringe, Peptide Critic style

              Both Peptides seemed to mix together without issue

              Research Rat received blended peptide dose without issue.

              I guess we need to update the chart.

              Next week we will be researching AOD-9604 , hopefully I can get it re-constituted without any problems.

              Assuming the reconstitution process works will be trying to blend AOD-9604, Mots, SS31 in a single dose syringe.

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              @TrueNorth

              Considering how difficult AOD can be to recon…

              I think it would just gel when mixed with the other two… but 🤷‍♀️

              I guess… FAFO!

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                yeah with how it bruised from dulling a needle after one reinsert trying to get out a bubble. i wouldnt wanna imagine how shitty it would feel after making a candy cane cocktail of peps to save like an extra 20 cents? no thanks haha

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                  yeah with how it bruised from dulling a needle after one reinsert trying to get out a bubble. i wouldnt wanna imagine how shitty it would feel after making a candy cane cocktail of peps to save like an extra 20 cents? no thanks haha

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                  @quicksilver80 - the method outlined in the 'Combining Multiple Peptides in One Syringe' video, you don't use the same needle to extract and research with

                  The method is;

                  • use a 1 ml Luer Lock syringe and leave the business end open (no needle attached)
                  • determine the combined total units you will be extracting from your pep stack and pull back the plunger on the luer lock needle to that amount plus and extra 10-20 units
                  • I used a separate needle for each peptide extraction
                  • after extraction, inject each peptide into the open end of the aforementioned luer lock syringe
                  • once all peps are injected into the luer lock combo syringe, attach a brand new luer lock needle of your choice, 31g 6mm is good sweet spot for my research.
                    -push syringe plunger forward to purge out all air
                    -research away

                  The idea is not to save 20 cents, this method is actually more expensive. The idea is that if you are researching with a large daily stack of peps, this method reduces the number of research injections needed with a peptide stack to a single injection.

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                    @TrueNorth

                    Considering how difficult AOD can be to recon…

                    I think it would just gel when mixed with the other two… but 🤷‍♀️

                    I guess… FAFO!

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                    @hay_bayls

                    Yes.....I considered this as well. If I try it I will start with the SS-31 then add the AOD....as its my cheapest pep in the stack. If the first two work....I should be good to go from there.

                    I'll report back next week as I add AOD to my research stack on Monday!

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                      @quicksilver80 - the method outlined in the 'Combining Multiple Peptides in One Syringe' video, you don't use the same needle to extract and research with

                      The method is;

                      • use a 1 ml Luer Lock syringe and leave the business end open (no needle attached)
                      • determine the combined total units you will be extracting from your pep stack and pull back the plunger on the luer lock needle to that amount plus and extra 10-20 units
                      • I used a separate needle for each peptide extraction
                      • after extraction, inject each peptide into the open end of the aforementioned luer lock syringe
                      • once all peps are injected into the luer lock combo syringe, attach a brand new luer lock needle of your choice, 31g 6mm is good sweet spot for my research.
                        -push syringe plunger forward to purge out all air
                        -research away

                      The idea is not to save 20 cents, this method is actually more expensive. The idea is that if you are researching with a large daily stack of peps, this method reduces the number of research injections needed with a peptide stack to a single injection.

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                      @TrueNorth ah. makes more sense now you put it that way.

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