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Lab vs Lab, We tested 5 Labs using the same Kit.

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    Thank you for another great article. I always reconstitute based off the COA which is almost always from one lab. With labs varying on how much is in the vial is calculated dosages that way really the best way?

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      ValGal
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      Great article. Thanks Randy and Jeff.

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        aaronscarborough
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        Excellent information. Thank you for diving deep and sharing your findings!

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          Awesome work & sorta what I thought would be found.

          One question - were the labs sent more than 1X vial aware they were all from the same source/you?

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          @STATIEEIGHT 2 vials from the kit sent to each lab, plus the Jank result from 3rd party test on thr same batch and the vendors 2nd party test from jano on the same batxh.

          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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            Love the info and REALLY love those labels on the vials, hilarious and so freaking creative. Thank you for this!

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              Neil McCauley
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              I ain't upset that Nexaph overfills its vials a tad

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                This is by far, one of the best write ups I’ve seen yet thank you for sharing this

                “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                  As I've come to expect from @randy, science is explained in simple, understandable terms that provide real-world applicability while calling out the "Stone Tablet" argument of COA's from any particular lab. I followed this original discussion with great interest and am delighted to see this write-up. Thanks for the time, money, and effort you spent on this.

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                    Awesome, thank you very much for the research!

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                      Awesome work & sorta what I thought would be found.

                      One question - were the labs sent more than 1X vial aware they were all from the same source/you?

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                      @STATIEEIGHT John at AFI is a friend (we still pay him). The rest of them probably saw peptide critic on the credit card if they were looking for it.

                      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                      • melissasuttonM melissasutton

                        Love the info and REALLY love those labels on the vials, hilarious and so freaking creative. Thank you for this!

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                        @JustAgirl I bought a sticker maker thinking id do something funny...i never thought it would involve unc wang.

                        "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                          rogerp
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                          I just watched a video that said the true way to test if a product is what it actually is sold as is to have it tested with Liquid Chromatography-Mass Spectrometer (LC-MS) to actually tell if it actually the correct peptide. I thought that is what a purity test covered, but looking at this image above, I guess I am wrong.

                          What vendors are tested like that and what testing labs are actually using this? I see Freedom might be, if I am reading that right.

                          I apologies in advance, new to COA process and trying to learn more on it.

                          video that I randomly came across:
                          https://youtu.be/lHUOLJHiJzA?si=9P0QJVayqogka9fc&t=488

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                            I don't see reta on their website, will they be selling or sold reta? New to this world, and this is seems to be a signal of who to trust in a world that seems really hard to find a trustworthy provider.

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                              My guy. Easy to digest, follow and read. Straight to the facts and points. Pulitzer Emmy, you name it.

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                                I don't see reta on their website, will they be selling or sold reta? New to this world, and this is seems to be a signal of who to trust in a world that seems really hard to find a trustworthy provider.

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                                @islander671 nxp-3p 😉

                                "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                  burner1
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                                  Well done.
                                  Soooo... I was right? I kid I kid !!! 😜

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                                    Excellent.

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                                      This is why I'm a Peptide Critic @randy fan. Great article and content! Love to see it!

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                                        Great, Great, Great test! Thank you for doing this. So in simple terms, the COAs are useful to tell us what is actually in the bottle and it if is relatively pure. Works for me, as long as I know I am injecting Tesamorelin and not Mots-C, I am good. I just use label stated amount when reconing. As this test clearly shows, amount could be very different depending on who tested it.

                                        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                        • mrjoshua44M mrjoshua44

                                          Fantastic article!! See, this is why I love this space. Just gets down to the brass tacks with a no, nonsense approach. I learn so much from this platform everyday.

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                                          Eleanor
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                                          @mrjoshua44 I agree! Great article. I had to take Lab & Biotech classes in college and all these factors mentioned come into play. Very nicely done!

                                          Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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