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Lambda Water LLC - Reconstitution Solution

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    TrueNorth
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    For a brief period here in the Great White North, Hospira BAC was in short supply. I ended up getting, ordering and using 'Reconstitution Solution' from a company called Lamba Water LLC

    https://www.lambdawater.com/

    I only used their BAC for a short while without issue and then quickly reverted back to Hospira once it came back in stock

    I have 3 x 30ml bottles in my inventory.

    They are showing Lab Assays on their website and it is apparently made in the USA

    Includes Lot#'s, Manufacturing dates and Expiry Dates.

    I have no idea what to test BAC Water for, but the labs reports on their site look legit.

    Any thoughts on this brand of BAC ?

    I wouldn't mind using them instead of just throwing them out.

    Here is a link to their COA;

    https://www.lambdawater.com/cdn/shop/t/72/assets/coa.pdf?v=134269366885211625841780244928

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      Hi, there was a test done by Peptide Crafters where they tested 11 different BACs being sold on Amazon,Lambda was one of them. Out of the 11 only 2 passed, Lambda and BioVitalis. I'm using Lambda for nasal sprays, no problems encountered. I've spoke with a few others who said that Lambda is all they ever use, no issues encountered. I do think there are certain peps like GHK where it shouldn't be used, but I'm not an expert 🙂

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      What's interesting is, There are some folks on this forum who use Parrox and haven't encountered any issues.

      “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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        I used cheap Amazon toilet water when I got started and didn’t have any obvious issues aside from maybe more sting than might be normal. Now I only use Hospira and I have fewer ISR’s. But I also use shorter needles and my overall process is probably better. It’s likely that within a limited range, using these is ‘safe’-ish. The question is whether you want to risk it over a few bucks.

        Humans tend to be lousy at risk assessment and valuation. Hence spending thousands on peptides and cheaping out on bac water or perhaps over - or underestimating the risk of using random stuff you found on the internet. 😉

        Please set a funny and sarcastic signature line. It brings me joy. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

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          I took a chance and bought a 6 pack from their website before I knew where to find Hospira at a "reasonable" price. Found similar information to what WiseGal64 is stating. So far, no issues but i have only used some of 1 vial for about 3 weeks. I can find Hospira now but find at the rate I use BAC, I may end up wasting them. I would prefer not to waste the Lambda as long as there are no issues. If I do end up throwing them out, it's not a big investment lost. If I had to do it all over again, I would just get the Hospira for peace of mind and be done.

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            BoxerLover posted here recently this study, where "Lambda Water passed %BA, pH, and sterility, but failed endotoxin testing (0.765 EU/mL, > USP ≤0.25 EU/mL)".

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              Well that’s interesting and concerning.

              “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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                Nuncles
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                Indeed. Possibly the reason their COA on their website is a year old.

                EDIT: Looked at their COA again and it's only for alcohol content and pH balance.
                https://www.lambdawater.com/cdn/shop/t/72/assets/coa.pdf?v=134269366885211625841780244928

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                  I know Hospira is the gold standard and have since purchased some for future research (some that I already received and some that I’m STILL waiting on from Consumers Choice 2+ months later 😑). With that said, I began researching with Lambda back in January when I started this journey and have gone through six 30ml vials during this time. Never had an issue of any kind. No abnormal ISR, no gelling with Tesa or ARA, etc. Just my 2 cents as well.

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                    I know Hospira is the gold standard and have since purchased some for future research (some that I already received and some that I’m STILL waiting on from Consumers Choice 2+ months later 😑). With that said, I began researching with Lambda back in January when I started this journey and have gone through six 30ml vials during this time. Never had an issue of any kind. No abnormal ISR, no gelling with Tesa or ARA, etc. Just my 2 cents as well.

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                    @TBone I appreciate you sharing. Puts my mind at ease a little.

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                      @tbone no gelling with ARA, I like the sound of that!

                      “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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                        @tbone no gelling with ARA, I like the sound of that!

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                        @WisGal64 no gelling at all. And I’ve learned ARA will be something I research consistently moving forward. Has provided me relief no other peptide has!

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                          @tbone same for me!

                          “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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                            BoxerLover posted here recently this study, where "Lambda Water passed %BA, pH, and sterility, but failed endotoxin testing (0.765 EU/mL, > USP ≤0.25 EU/mL)".

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                            • vpeptidesV vpeptides

                              BoxerLover posted here recently this study, where "Lambda Water passed %BA, pH, and sterility, but failed endotoxin testing (0.765 EU/mL, > USP ≤0.25 EU/mL)".

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                              @vpeptides said:

                              BoxerLover posted here recently this study, where "Lambda Water passed %BA, pH, and sterility, but failed endotoxin testing (0.765 EU/mL, > USP ≤0.25 EU/mL)".

                              Yup and many others will fail too because Lambda and most of these RUO grade BAC waters use Deionized water as the base instead of sterile water. Sterile water is one step after deionization to remove endotoxins. The USP 0.25 limit mentioned is the true !nj3ction grade sterile water test.

                              However, most people don't notice any ISRs even with these deionized water based BAC because subq administration is a lot more forgiving to water contaminants than IV or spinal applications.

                              If someone uses these for IV it could be disastrous.

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                              • vpeptidesV vpeptides

                                BoxerLover posted here recently this study, where "Lambda Water passed %BA, pH, and sterility, but failed endotoxin testing (0.765 EU/mL, > USP ≤0.25 EU/mL)".

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                                @vpeptides I will add that given that they are not even using sterile water as base and just using deionized water which is available dirt cheap in gallons on Amazon the price they charge is atrocious. They should be selling these bottles for $2.

                                Imagine their profits.

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                                • vpeptidesV vpeptides

                                  BoxerLover posted here recently this study, where "Lambda Water passed %BA, pH, and sterility, but failed endotoxin testing (0.765 EU/mL, > USP ≤0.25 EU/mL)".

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                                  @vpeptides I have seen in multiple spots now that the article is inaccurate and AI hallucinated some of that information, but nothing more specific. Hoping the people involved in the actual testing publish findings soon.

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