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  • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

    I was doing this successfully with a 1/2 inch needle when I did the daily schedule. No problems. I also put it through a .22 13mm filter. It takes patience. But it goes. The trick is patience due to the high viscosity.

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    @kenhnsy just curious, why would you filter trt?

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    • judgetooJ judgetoo

      I am doing the same thing by using a V4 pen with my TRT. I was tired of backfilling insulin syringes and making a mess. I’m using a 29g x 1/2” from TRUEplus (Amazon). I tested it similarly to what you described although you were much more thorough. I loaded a syringe a couple of times and it looked accurate enough for me. I’ve been doing it that way for about a month now.

      I pen 17u every other day for an average of 120mg per week. Just had my labs done and everything looked good as far as my doctor was concerned. I haven’t noticed any changes in how I feel, gym performance or libido.

      This is just my experience. I’m by no means an expert in any of this but wanted to let you know you’re not alone in this experiment. It works for me.

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      NobleONe
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      @judgetoo Thanks for sharing this! Have you tried an auto-injector by chance? After I do a few more months with my current setup, I'll likely try out test with a V4.

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      • N Nuncles

        Where are you injecting a 1/2 inch needle to get it intramuscular? Deltoid?

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        NobleONe
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        @Nuncles I poked IM for maybe a year or so because I was taught that was the only way for it to be effective. I made the change to subcu and have been doing that for years. Labs have been consistent (I run them every 90 days because I'm a freak). For me switching to subq was a HUGE QOL improvement. I rotate injection sites on my thighs

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          Appreciate the info. It may be time to look into other options. I too thought that IM was the best route to take.

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            I would also like to use a V4 and test it subq. I've always had mine administered in the caboose. I guess my wife could help with that there but I don't want to bother her with doing that.

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            • judgetooJ judgetoo

              I am doing the same thing by using a V4 pen with my TRT. I was tired of backfilling insulin syringes and making a mess. I’m using a 29g x 1/2” from TRUEplus (Amazon). I tested it similarly to what you described although you were much more thorough. I loaded a syringe a couple of times and it looked accurate enough for me. I’ve been doing it that way for about a month now.

              I pen 17u every other day for an average of 120mg per week. Just had my labs done and everything looked good as far as my doctor was concerned. I haven’t noticed any changes in how I feel, gym performance or libido.

              This is just my experience. I’m by no means an expert in any of this but wanted to let you know you’re not alone in this experiment. It works for me.

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              anthonytruong
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              @judgetoo Great info! Thanks for sharing! When Noble and I ran these accuracy tests we held the needle for 10 seconds to ensure the best accurate dose due to the viscosity of T. Question I have is how long you kept the needle inside before removing from the skin?

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                @judgetoo Great info! Thanks for sharing! When Noble and I ran these accuracy tests we held the needle for 10 seconds to ensure the best accurate dose due to the viscosity of T. Question I have is how long you kept the needle inside before removing from the skin?

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                judgetoo
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                @Cheeto I leave it in for several seconds as well. Don’t want to miss a tiny drop of that sweet stuff.

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                • N NobleONe

                  @judgetoo Thanks for sharing this! Have you tried an auto-injector by chance? After I do a few more months with my current setup, I'll likely try out test with a V4.

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                  @NobleONe I haven’t tried anything other than the V4. Sorry.

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                  • mrjoshua44M mrjoshua44

                    @kenhnsy just curious, why would you filter trt?

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                    @mrjoshua44 said:

                    @kenhnsy just curious, why would you filter trt?

                    Mine is all USP prescription stuff. But I found particles in a vial which had to come from the puncture cap. So filtering can only be a good thing for all injectables.

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                      I use a V1 for my T-c. The spring in it seems stronger than the v1.5, v2, and v3 that I have.

                      Follows research backed science, not “trust me” bro’s.

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                      • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

                        @mrjoshua44 said:

                        @kenhnsy just curious, why would you filter trt?

                        Mine is all USP prescription stuff. But I found particles in a vial which had to come from the puncture cap. So filtering can only be a good thing for all injectables.

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                        @kenhnsy That's cool! I'm all about filtering, but if I were you, and you're going to filter your trt, I would use a 25mm PTFE (Polytetrafluoroethylene) .22 micron filter. It's considered the best choice for oil-based solutions like trt.

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                        • MyBM MyB

                          I use a V1 for my T-c. The spring in it seems stronger than the v1.5, v2, and v3 that I have.

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                          NobleONe
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                          @MyB When using a manual pen, I can assume I should go slow when pushing?

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                            I don’t go as fast as I can but I don’t go slow either. Once the plunger stops moving I count to 10 and remove.
                            Slow with thick substances can lead to inaccurate dosing.
                            Guess it really depends on the iu’s you’re pushing.

                            Follows research backed science, not “trust me” bro’s.

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                              Im currently using a xulin pen for test-cip at 14iu per day of 200mg/ml Sub-q. I use 30ga gluco-care needles and I have to let the needle stay in my belly for 30-40 seconds or so to make sure I dont leave pressure in the vial and an inaccurate does in my belly. I'm a fan of injecting daily.

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                                Im currently using a xulin pen for test-cip at 14iu per day of 200mg/ml Sub-q. I use 30ga gluco-care needles and I have to let the needle stay in my belly for 30-40 seconds or so to make sure I dont leave pressure in the vial and an inaccurate does in my belly. I'm a fan of injecting daily.

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                                @theckman80 said:

                                I'm a fan of injecting daily.

                                Are you using an aromatase inhibitor? I've done both schedules and still feel high estradiol. DIM helps. The gurus conflict on this topic.

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                                • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

                                  @theckman80 said:

                                  I'm a fan of injecting daily.

                                  Are you using an aromatase inhibitor? I've done both schedules and still feel high estradiol. DIM helps. The gurus conflict on this topic.

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                                  NobleONe
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                                  @kenhnsy I've had the goal of getting off of an AI. I take DIM, but I still needed AI.
                                  I am at a point where I can almost be entirely off of it, but lowered my T dose to 90mg/week, 3x pokes EOD

                                  I still feel great and labs are good floating around 1050. Just need to keep confirming my E2+symptoms are where I want to be at

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                                  • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

                                    @theckman80 said:

                                    I'm a fan of injecting daily.

                                    Are you using an aromatase inhibitor? I've done both schedules and still feel high estradiol. DIM helps. The gurus conflict on this topic.

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                                    @kenhnsy you know, I found less need for an AI when I went to daily injections. My estradiol came down, my Endo said it was because I want spiking my Test through the roof and the letting it fall over the week. Its also really nice because I can go do my labs whenever I want now.

                                    Its pretty interesting. Also, if im a big dummy and for get a day, its not as big of a deal, if i forget a couple days in a row, I will take my AI and take double my daily dose and then go back to normal dosing schedule.

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                                      diegoc
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                                      Ive tested all the pens, needle size and injection site areas.

                                      Now for this to work properly you need a 29g needle and preferably testosterone in MCT oil.

                                      The best route of delivery.
                                      Auto injection pen
                                      29g 1/2”
                                      Ventral glute.

                                      This gives you a precise dose and your able to inject without being a contortionist.

                                      2nd option.
                                      Auto injection pen
                                      29g 1/2”
                                      Delts
                                      A little more uncomfortable but doable.

                                      Other options.
                                      Regular pen- too hard to push very uncomfortable
                                      Subq- not as precise in dose.

                                      Right now im preloading exactly my dose im 31g 1/2” and i inject in the ventral glute and im loving it.

                                      Oh and i do daily shots, and been doing this for 20years so im going for the least amount of friction as possible

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                                        Ive tested all the pens, needle size and injection site areas.

                                        Now for this to work properly you need a 29g needle and preferably testosterone in MCT oil.

                                        The best route of delivery.
                                        Auto injection pen
                                        29g 1/2”
                                        Ventral glute.

                                        This gives you a precise dose and your able to inject without being a contortionist.

                                        2nd option.
                                        Auto injection pen
                                        29g 1/2”
                                        Delts
                                        A little more uncomfortable but doable.

                                        Other options.
                                        Regular pen- too hard to push very uncomfortable
                                        Subq- not as precise in dose.

                                        Right now im preloading exactly my dose im 31g 1/2” and i inject in the ventral glute and im loving it.

                                        Oh and i do daily shots, and been doing this for 20years so im going for the least amount of friction as possible

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                                        NobleONe
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                                        @diegoc Awesome, thanks for this!

                                        Do you leave the needle in after the pen clicks down to 0? I've been counting to 10, but not sure if that's giving me too much of a dose

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                                          bangkokiscool
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                                          29G 1/2" VG. My exact protocol for test-c in mct. Super easy, virtually painless. I do use a manual pen though, i find being able to go slow, pause in the middle, reduces any bumps or PIP. Especially if the test is mixed in with a little something extra sometimes, also in MCT.

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