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BAC water misconceptions.

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  • vpeptidesV vpeptides

    @Stevepep Thank you for passing it on, I won't definitely use "expired" Hospira Bac water, just for extra safety. The least I want to worry during my research is that something can be off with reconstitution water, as if it's not enough that we are testing experimental compounds of a questionable quality.

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    @vpeptides and this is the easiest thing to avoid. Its kind of mind boggling to me. I am in the same boat as you. No thanks

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      @stevepep like @myb was saying the other day, we are all somewhere on a spectrum of knowledge, belief, and practice where we either scientifically, superstitiously, or arbitrarily take risks according to a variety of inputs, and rationalize it to ourselves as perfectly reasonable.

      I was talking to a good friend last night who was telling someone that he watched a video on it where they proved that ‘peptides are bullshit’. So there you have it. I just smiled and nodded. 😉

      Please set a funny and sarcastic signature line. It brings me joy. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

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        Anybody heard about the new peptide that can cause your pubes to fall out?doesn't effect the hair on your head or arms only ballsack hairs

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          I spoke to a medical Rep this morning. Yes, the expiration date is very meaningful. Not just due to the alcohol breaking down. Even mild degradation breaks down the plastic container and increases microplastics and that is the primary concern. There is a low level of microplastics present pre expiration but post the break down happens rapidly. I know people don’t want to hear it but there it is. Injecting micro plastics into your rat is not good expecially at higher levels that occur in long term storage. Hospira has done the testing and that’s why the expiration isn’t 24 months or longer.i

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          @Stevepep
          That sounds like a good reason not to use the plastic bottles of Hospira. I know people like to think of it as the gold standard but there are other quality brands on the market and I can think of at least 2 that run a eGMP certified factory has passed testing that even Hospira had a fluke failure during and use Borosilicate glass vials. The bottom line is that alcohol is a solvent and even for short term storage a small amount of chemicals leaches from the plastic but not the glass. And as a final thought Hospira has created a shortage to increase pricing and the other manufacturers are filling the void with a quality product at a better price.

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            Me reading this after buying 10 bottles of Hospira 😮

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              @Stevepep
              That sounds like a good reason not to use the plastic bottles of Hospira. I know people like to think of it as the gold standard but there are other quality brands on the market and I can think of at least 2 that run a eGMP certified factory has passed testing that even Hospira had a fluke failure during and use Borosilicate glass vials. The bottom line is that alcohol is a solvent and even for short term storage a small amount of chemicals leaches from the plastic but not the glass. And as a final thought Hospira has created a shortage to increase pricing and the other manufacturers are filling the void with a quality product at a better price.

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              @robertwalker said:

              And as a final thought Hospira has created a shortage to increase pricing and the other manufacturers are filling the void with a quality product at a better price.

              To what other manufacturers are you refering?

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                Does filtering remove microplastics?

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                  Does filtering remove microplastics?

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                  @Americanchild Great question. Not sure but here is what Claude says:

                  Can a 0.22 µm Syringe Filter Remove Microplastics?
                  A 0.22 µm syringe filter is designed to remove particles and microorganisms larger than its pore size, but it will not reliably remove microplastics

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                    Google AI says that the peak of the distribution occurs between 100 nm and 300 nm (0.1 to 0.3 μm). It could be filtered at least partially.

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                      I actually periodically look at the solutions I make in a microscope x1600. I see that filtered solutions have less of particles that look like plastics. But since I've switched to Hospira water I don't see a lot of debris anyway.
                      When I wasn't filtering and used some suppliers, which I now consider low-grade, I saw some really scary stuff, I even have a picture somewhere. I had no idea what was it.

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