Epitalon protocol, is it meant to be high doses?
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Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
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5mg dose is used to research some additional possible effects of Epitalon like longevity. If all you want is to promote melatonin production you may want to research starting with as low as 0.1mg and slowly go up until you get your effect.
10mg reconstituted in 2ml will give you 50mcg per unit, so you may try 2 units, then 4 units, etc. -
5mg dose is used to research some additional possible effects of Epitalon like longevity. If all you want is to promote melatonin production you may want to research starting with as low as 0.1mg and slowly go up until you get your effect.
10mg reconstituted in 2ml will give you 50mcg per unit, so you may try 2 units, then 4 units, etc. -
@vpeptides Do you know a link where I can find info on how long Epithalon and Pinealon are good for once reconstituted and in fridge? I think it was gym rat who had a great link but don't think this aspect was included. Thanks!
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@vpeptides Thank you very very much! That is exactly the link I was looking for!
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Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
Thanks@Lady-Hamilton No it is not. The dosing is .500 - 1mg right before bed. There is zero proof it elongates telomeres aside from some rats....always in rats. Now lets say it does...does more solution = longer telomeres? Probably not. Larger doses you are likely burning money and frankly those large doses got traction b/c it was based off Epithalamin, while epitalon is the concentrated version. We do know that Epitalon goes right to work after the first dose and is fantastic for reseting your circadian rhythm. Use it for that and if you live forever it's an added benefit. Through my hours upon hours of reading and research not one person can show me their telomere tests, which means it likely doesn't lengthen them. If it did, we'd see longevity bros spamming every website from here to Elon's Mars showing longer telomeres as if they just caught the largest fish on record. But yeah, nothing, nathan, nada.
PS - Epitalon is one of my favorite peptides. No, I am not going to live forever and I'm aging every minute I write this.
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@Lady-Hamilton No it is not. The dosing is .500 - 1mg right before bed. There is zero proof it elongates telomeres aside from some rats....always in rats. Now lets say it does...does more solution = longer telomeres? Probably not. Larger doses you are likely burning money and frankly those large doses got traction b/c it was based off Epithalamin, while epitalon is the concentrated version. We do know that Epitalon goes right to work after the first dose and is fantastic for reseting your circadian rhythm. Use it for that and if you live forever it's an added benefit. Through my hours upon hours of reading and research not one person can show me their telomere tests, which means it likely doesn't lengthen them. If it did, we'd see longevity bros spamming every website from here to Elon's Mars showing longer telomeres as if they just caught the largest fish on record. But yeah, nothing, nathan, nada.
PS - Epitalon is one of my favorite peptides. No, I am not going to live forever and I'm aging every minute I write this.
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@gym.rat My plan is to test my telomeres before and after and do the 5mg's. Waiting to see if Rythm will do it; if not, I will send it somewhere else. Blood testing is non-negotiable IMO
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@Stevepep Awesome. I'm excited for this and hope you live forever. That said I'm going to temper my expectations. Aside from the GLPs most peptides don't move the needle full steam ahead.
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@Lady-Hamilton No it is not. The dosing is .500 - 1mg right before bed. There is zero proof it elongates telomeres aside from some rats....always in rats. Now lets say it does...does more solution = longer telomeres? Probably not. Larger doses you are likely burning money and frankly those large doses got traction b/c it was based off Epithalamin, while epitalon is the concentrated version. We do know that Epitalon goes right to work after the first dose and is fantastic for reseting your circadian rhythm. Use it for that and if you live forever it's an added benefit. Through my hours upon hours of reading and research not one person can show me their telomere tests, which means it likely doesn't lengthen them. If it did, we'd see longevity bros spamming every website from here to Elon's Mars showing longer telomeres as if they just caught the largest fish on record. But yeah, nothing, nathan, nada.
PS - Epitalon is one of my favorite peptides. No, I am not going to live forever and I'm aging every minute I write this.
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@lady-hamilton I just reconned my first ever vial of Epi a few minutes ago and plan to take 1 mg. tonight.
Many thanks to people on this site for correcting what I view as dreadful instructional advice.
@Eleanor I started at the same and by pin 6 I had to move back to 500mcg b/c I was getting so sleepy at night. Epitalon wired me so well I could have slept standing up come bed time. It's good stuff and I'll be running it a few times a year. My vial only lasted like 13 days (10mg) and I missed one day, the rest were consecutive.
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@Eleanor I started at the same and by pin 6 I had to move back to 500mcg b/c I was getting so sleepy at night. Epitalon wired me so well I could have slept standing up come bed time. It's good stuff and I'll be running it a few times a year. My vial only lasted like 13 days (10mg) and I missed one day, the rest were consecutive.
@Eleanor I started at the same and by pin 6 I had to move back to 500mcg b/c I was getting so sleepy at night. Epitalon wired me so well I could have sleep standing up come bed time. It's good stuff and I'll be running it a few times a year. Mine vial only lasted like 13 days (10mg) and I missed one day, the rest were consecutive.
Oh, so glad you told me, I could sure stand to use less and if it works well, I will also be running it a couple times per year. Right as I finished loading the new vial and pulled the needle out, neighborhood kids banged on my door and I jumped and lost a few ml thru the breather needle! Danged kids; scaring an old lady like that. My 1st vial will probably last at least 5 days. I'm hoping for no interference the next times around; I have 2 more vials.
Were you groggy when you woke up? I hope I'm not; I've got cleaning and cooking to do.
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Thank you everyone, I’m so grateful for your input! Great information from @gym.rat
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Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
Thanks@Lady-Hamilton I been using epitalon and dsip. They were each 10 mg and I reconstituted with 3 ml of bac water. I take 10 units of each bottle each night. It has really helped with the quality of my sleep.
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Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
Thanks@Lady-Hamilton Like all peptides. Start low 500 mcgs = 0.5mg and titrate up until you find the sweet spot. It is also to rule out any possible allergic reaction no matter your source. Sweet stop should feel right not tolerable. Find the lowest effective dose. "Pinch, pin and pray".
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Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
Thanks -
Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
Thanks@Lady-Hamilton After watching enough YouTube videos some from pep friendly doctors — those high doses were for the full Epithalamine compound that had only small amount of active Epithalon component.
If you are researching Epithalon, a synthetic molecule derived from Epithalamine, you don't need those high doses.
Plus s rule of thumb is — for peps with mainly anecdotal and community research experience, it's always best to start small and then increase to assess individual tolerability. 0.5mg or even lower can be a good starting point.
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