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Epitalon protocol, is it meant to be high doses?

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    Stevepep
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    @gym.rat We shall see. Many move the needle. If you get blood work. For instance, CJC and IPA had a major impact on my free testosterone and SHBG. All of my factors have improved substantially. You don't know until you know. I do what the blood work says.

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      @gym.rat I concur. Also, longer telomeres doesn't mean longer life. A study was done to find if the groups of people naturally having longer telomeres live longer. Nope.

      attentiion is all you need

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        Eleanor
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        @lady-hamilton I just reconned my first ever vial of Epi a few minutes ago and plan to take 1 mg. tonight.

        Many thanks to people on this site for correcting what I view as dreadful instructional advice.

        Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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          @gym.rat said:

          @Eleanor I started at the same and by pin 6 I had to move back to 500mcg b/c I was getting so sleepy at night. Epitalon wired me so well I could have sleep standing up come bed time. It's good stuff and I'll be running it a few times a year. Mine vial only lasted like 13 days (10mg) and I missed one day, the rest were consecutive.

          Oh, so glad you told me, I could sure stand to use less and if it works well, I will also be running it a couple times per year. Right as I finished loading the new vial and pulled the needle out, neighborhood kids banged on my door and I jumped and lost a few ml thru the breather needle! Danged kids; scaring an old lady like that. My 1st vial will probably last at least 5 days. I'm hoping for no interference the next times around; I have 2 more vials.

          Were you groggy when you woke up? I hope I'm not; I've got cleaning and cooking to do.

          Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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            Lady Hamilton
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            Thank you everyone, I’m so grateful for your input! Great information from @gym.rat 😎

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              Stevepep
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              Just ordered a telomere test two pack one for before and one for after. Not cheap. I plan on starting at the end of the month. I will report the results. I am going to start at 5mg and see how it goes since I am after the telomere claims.

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              • L Lady Hamilton

                Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
                Thanks

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                kristal
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                @Lady-Hamilton I been using epitalon and dsip. They were each 10 mg and I reconstituted with 3 ml of bac water. I take 10 units of each bottle each night. It has really helped with the quality of my sleep.

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                • L Lady Hamilton

                  Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
                  Thanks

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                  @Lady-Hamilton Like all peptides. Start low 500 mcgs = 0.5mg and titrate up until you find the sweet spot. It is also to rule out any possible allergic reaction no matter your source. Sweet stop should feel right not tolerable. Find the lowest effective dose. "Pinch, pin and pray".

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                  • L Lady Hamilton

                    Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
                    Thanks

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                    • L Lady Hamilton

                      Can anyone help me with a realistic protocol for Epitalon? Jeff and @randy have published one but the dosage seems so high, 5mg straight off the bat?! The vial is 10mg. I want to use it to help me deep sleep, is anyone using smaller doses?
                      Thanks

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                      @Lady-Hamilton After watching enough YouTube videos some from pep friendly doctors — those high doses were for the full Epithalamine compound that had only small amount of active Epithalon component.

                      If you are researching Epithalon, a synthetic molecule derived from Epithalamine, you don't need those high doses.

                      Plus s rule of thumb is — for peps with mainly anecdotal and community research experience, it's always best to start small and then increase to assess individual tolerability. 0.5mg or even lower can be a good starting point.

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                        Mr Smurf
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                        I do a 10er of na epi amidate and a 5er of dsip, 2ml bac 13ml saline nasal spray for my sleep aid. Its very effective.

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                          Epitalon or epithalon? I been doing 1mg every other day just like SS-31, LL-37.... These peptides have a long onset effect. Short onset they are not. Guess they take time to see the result. These are my just in case peptides. Hard to tell if they are helping but.

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                            Epitalon or epithalon? I been doing 1mg every other day just like SS-31, LL-37.... These peptides have a long onset effect. Short onset they are not. Guess they take time to see the result. These are my just in case peptides. Hard to tell if they are helping but.

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                            @EXTROPIAN it's very hard to see if it is helping if your research doesn't have a target goal. You have to run all kind the tests, like metabolomics, proteomics, all -omics before and after, then compare and make a guess, what's coincidental and what's not. Also, if you mix-in another treatment at the same time it makes it magnitudes harder. And not knowing the effective dose, or changing it over time brings another layer of complexity. I will not even talk about the quality of the testing product.

                            attentiion is all you need

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