Do I have to take Epitalon if I'm taking Pinealon?
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The Epitalon makes me sleep too hard and too long. I don't like it. I'm taking Pinealon early in the morning. Do I really need Epitalon? I don't have sleep problems in the first place.
The Epitalon makes me sleep too hard and too long.
Oh really? I gotta try that. Because I've been miserable without that kind of hard and long sleep.
Regarding the stacking, I heard from someone that people start with Epithalon to first fix sleep and then add Pinealon which is researched in the MORNING or daytime to fix the circadian rhythm.
But I've not yet researched either although have them in my possession.
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I do subq Pinealon in the belly and forget the Epi. Keep in mind I don't have sleep problems and for those who do, it might work perfectly. I felt like shit this morning after 10+ hours sleep. I can just take regular pharma for that and have my insurance pay for it ($2).
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The Epitalon makes me sleep too hard and too long. I don't like it. I'm taking Pinealon early in the morning. Do I really need Epitalon? I don't have sleep problems in the first place.
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The Epitalon makes me sleep too hard and too long.
Oh really? I gotta try that. Because I've been miserable without that kind of hard and long sleep.
Regarding the stacking, I heard from someone that people start with Epithalon to first fix sleep and then add Pinealon which is researched in the MORNING or daytime to fix the circadian rhythm.
But I've not yet researched either although have them in my possession.
@pep_researcher Epitalon is the one that fixes circadian rhythm and it honestly does so after the first dose. Pinealon also technically isn't a sleep aid. It does however have an effect on better REM sleep and a potential to influence circadian rhythm, but it won't put you to sleep. The primary focus of this peptide is Neuroprotection and Cognitive Support.
The key mistake I made with Pinealon is using at night before bed. After I read the literature, you want to use this first thing in the morning up waking up.
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@Eleanor Lower the dose of Epitalon. No you don't need to take both.
I'd personally just finish the Epitalon because it's a daily two week cycle and then you are done with it.
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@gym.rat Why would I take Epithalon in the first place?! I sleep just fine! I'm up at 4:30 and don't get home until almost 6:30 at night. Trust me, when I go to sleep, I just flat pass out.
@Eleanor Well the main thing about it is longevity. That is why it is so popular in the biohacking community. You can do what you want, but I'm just saying try lowering the dose and getting through the vial so you're not wasting it. Otherwise just throw it away. That's your call, I'm just trying to offer support. It's one of my favorite peptides.
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@eleanor I don't have anything to contribute as I haven't started my cycles yet but I must say I envy you! No problems with long hard sleeps, I don't know that I have ever experienced that, but I can dream

@eleanor I don't have anything to contribute as I haven't started my cycles yet but I must say I envy you! No problems with long hard sleeps, I don't know that I have ever experienced that, but I can dream

My sleep wasn't always good. When I was at the height of Lyme, it was horrible. It took me a couple of years to learn to relax enough AND, I drink Re-Mag in my water all day. Sleep is good now.
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@eleanor I don't have anything to contribute as I haven't started my cycles yet but I must say I envy you! No problems with long hard sleeps, I don't know that I have ever experienced that, but I can dream

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Tell me more about Re-mag? I don't know that I've heard this term
This isn't glycinate or any of the others I've tried. It's liquid and don't believe the non-laxative statement; it is strong. It is 1/4 to 1/2 TEAspoon per liter of water. It lasts a long time, you can find it on Amazon for 30ish dollars. I use a capful in my liter bottle and drink it throughout the day. I make sure I'm finished with the liter by about 3 or 4pm so as not to get caught short at night.
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@eleanor Thanks for this information, I like the liquid idea much better than a capsule. I recently started switching over all my supps to powder form, I feel like it works quicker than the capsules.
@WisGal64 Powder certainly works faster than capsules but the hitch is what else is the carrier in the powder or capsule? This is a liquid in clean water, has a metallic taste, but I pour it into my liter bottle, fill the bottle up with crushed ice and just a bit of water to top it off, mix it by rocking the bottle a couple of times and pour it over a cup of ice and it's easily tolerable. It's relaxing and has all day to work on your system. I urge smaller dose at first and move the dose up from there.
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