Non-sketchy alternative to Hospira bac water (in glass vials)?
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Paroxx, in past tests, was found with a ph that’s in the upper range, or even out of the recommended range. This could be a problem properly dissolving some compounds. Acetic acid will fix this, but seems to be more work. They might have resolved the issue, but I have no info on that.
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Paroxx, in past tests, was found with a ph that’s in the upper range, or even out of the recommended range. This could be a problem properly dissolving some compounds. Acetic acid will fix this, but seems to be more work. They might have resolved the issue, but I have no info on that.
@Snake-Pepskin Thanks for that heads up! The most recent results I saw were from tests done in April by Light Labs. PH range was supposed to be between 5 and 7 and Parrox tested right at 7, so technically a pass, but on the upper edge as you noted. I remember seeing good scores for Lamda, and another brand, Quality Research Chemicals, which I ordered through Amazon last autumn, but now I can't find the test page where they compared them.
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Yeah, they are all over the place. I personally use Hospira, but I would consider Lambda for the next reload.
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We have all been brain washed on Hospira. It’s nothing but sterile water and benzyl alcohol. They aren’t making holy water. I know plenty of people who use Lamda, parrot, glacier aminos and they are all fine. If you are worried about the PH order some test strips and check a bottle yourself.
Some videos on YouTube convinced everyone Hospira is the holy grail and they have some secret potion. Nonsense. There is competition now and that’s a good thing people need to keep an open mind. @randy this would be a great video test the competition against Hospira.
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Hmm, this is interesting; apparently, being exposed to air causes bacteriostatic water to rapidly absorb carbon dioxide, which creates carbonic acid, lowering the water's PH. With these being multi-use vials, there will be several syringe punctures into the water bottle over the course of its use, usually with a bit of air introduced each time to equalize pressure and allow drawing the contents, and the reconstituted peptides will also be exposed to air, during preparation, and again whenever syringes are filled for dosing. If it's going to gradually drop in PH over time, maybe using bac water that starts out on the higher end of "normal" would actually provide a helpful cushion...?
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@Snake-Pepskin Thanks for that heads up! The most recent results I saw were from tests done in April by Light Labs. PH range was supposed to be between 5 and 7 and Parrox tested right at 7, so technically a pass, but on the upper edge as you noted. I remember seeing good scores for Lamda, and another brand, Quality Research Chemicals, which I ordered through Amazon last autumn, but now I can't find the test page where they compared them.
@theexquisitehour I would stay away from any water that tests so high on pH. I got some cell research lab grade sterile water for my own Ghetto BAC expt and even that tested right between 5-6 on pH strips.
If the pH is coming out so high they are not using proper nonpyrogenic autoclaved sterile water as the base. Most likely they are using distilled or deionized water and adding benzyl alcohol to it.
Did their COAs come with endotoxin and sterility results?
Either way, better to stay away. If you want to save money, get cell culture lab grade sterile water (easily available), add 10 units of BA to every 10ml of water, and filter for more peace of mind.
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@theexquisitehour I would stay away from any water that tests so high on pH. I got some cell research lab grade sterile water for my own Ghetto BAC expt and even that tested right between 5-6 on pH strips.
If the pH is coming out so high they are not using proper nonpyrogenic autoclaved sterile water as the base. Most likely they are using distilled or deionized water and adding benzyl alcohol to it.
Did their COAs come with endotoxin and sterility results?
Either way, better to stay away. If you want to save money, get cell culture lab grade sterile water (easily available), add 10 units of BA to every 10ml of water, and filter for more peace of mind.
@pep_researcher I know a couple of people making their own. I haven’t really gotten into it. I may though it’s such a simple thing. The whole Hospira stuff is ludicrous. The scarcity tactic to drive up prices led to competition. Now the tactic is make the competition look bad. Who even knows where that test comes from and what the motivation is. I bet there are all fine. You can easily test TDS and PH yourself. If in fact the PH is high like you said it’s not sterile water and likely distilled.
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