Looks like Nexaph is starting to test for metals, sterility, endo.
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@gym.rat Random testing is the best solution from a vendor like a Nexaph who is used by so many people IMO. What else does @commander want Nexaph to do? They internal test and pay for third party testing. I guess he sees the fact that they pay for it as some sort of scam on their part I see it as the opposite. But we all are responsible adults and can determine what is best. To continue to test every batch I receive from Nexaph IMO seems foolish at this point.
@Stevepep well said.
At this point you gotta trust somebody. I recently saw a COA from Freedom for Chinese BAC water, they tested content and purity, which both came in fine. They didn’t test ph, which is probably the easiest test and should be done for any dilutent. I’m assuming they weren’t asked to, but I feel they should have enough knowledge of this market to suggest it to the customer. The description was “White lyophilized powder” which tells me that they are not exactly paying as much attention to detail as I would expect.
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@Stevepep well said.
At this point you gotta trust somebody. I recently saw a COA from Freedom for Chinese BAC water, they tested content and purity, which both came in fine. They didn’t test ph, which is probably the easiest test and should be done for any dilutent. I’m assuming they weren’t asked to, but I feel they should have enough knowledge of this market to suggest it to the customer. The description was “White lyophilized powder” which tells me that they are not exactly paying as much attention to detail as I would expect.
@Snake-Pepskin I know which "Unfiltered" Bac water you are referring to. That COA does not look right and I question it's validity.
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I do trust some testing. But not from a manufacturer. I trust testing the most (not completely) from places like Puratec who buy from the same “manufacturers” on the grey market as everyone else - and them put their label on it and send it for testing. They are buying a limited number of kits, so the odds what they received is all from the same batch is greater. They cannot cherry pick what vials are good or not - because they have no idea and didn’t fill them. Just like you or I who bought 10 or 20 kits of the same product.
Nexaph is a manufacturer- they cannot cherry pick cherry pick what vials to send for testing. And for the rest of you who just want to believe.. well I already said my piece about how smart you are. In fact, the Judge said it best in Caddy Shack, the World needs ditch diggers too… -
I have explained this MULTIPLE times.. but for the people who want to believe Elvis is still alive and that Aliens secretly control the world.
A manufacture (Nexaph) send samples out that they send in or do “third party testing “ that they pay for is in control of those results. They pick what vials they send in… if you can’t figure out what that means, you are clearly too dumb and deserve what you get.
And for those that are going to comment on the third larty trst results (that Nexaph pays for), well you are just as dumb.
Yes they have been people smart enough ( and not cheap) that have sent in Nexaph’s products for completey independent testing (like me) and the test results have come back COMPLETELY different than the ones Nexaph has posted… i am not posting them again, stop being lazy and just accepting what sounds good to you so you can continue to be cheap and tell yourself everything is fine. If you can’t afford to send yourself stuff out for testing, you Shouldn’t be buying peptides. I can’t afford to race cars, so I don’t buy a piece of shit race car, race and loose and whine that it is unfair…@Commander True. By that rule people taking branded GLPs should send one pen from their monthly kit, I mean prescription, for independent testing, because not a long time ago Wegovy pens had cat hair found INSIDE the pens.
Ozempic or Wegovy distribution chain was also compromised for a short while with fake pens making into the distribution.
You can't trust anything! Absolutely true.
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@Commander um…. YOU posted in this thread.
Now kick yourself in the Jimmy.
I get what you’re saying, I do. I think if you would take a step back and realize you are both better off, and just “better” than the rest of us, it might ease your mind.
What your comments fail to recognize is your ability to do so. Some, I’ll use myself as the example, am not financially able to do what you suggest. Nor do I think it’s even logical to buy from a place like Nexaph at a premium then test again. Might as well buy the greyest cheapest you can find and go that route.
Nor do I have access to insurance to go about this the safest way possible and just spend the thousands through a Dr for FDA approved shit.
I worked my ass off to raise a family for over 3 decades, and now find myself unemployed and living off the nest egg I built without insurance, and quite honestly betrayed by the very industry that professes to keep us healthy. So I take it into my own hands. MY hands. Which means my decisions.
“Idiotic”? Maybe. Desperate not to die young as my genetics and long family history suggest, absolutely.
Your post, while I’m sure is well intended, is tone deaf and a narrow view. I’m happy you can do it the way you’re doing it. Well done sir.
@JtCjEfF
My post is saying exactly what it is…
This has been discussed all over the place, STG, here, Meso, GLP-1, etc… but people want to make themselves feel better on why they justify idiotic stuff.
At least when I do something stupid, and I do a lot, I say it as it is, I don’t try and justify it. The problem with putting stupid stuff out like this is that it misguides new people into thinking this testing is legitimate. You want to fool yourself, that is fine. But it isn’t right to confuse new people.
It is simple - trusting a manufacturers COAs is stupid, plan and simple. It is simple logic.
But in the end, I actually don’t care, my stuff is tested, I don’t have to justify to myself why I don’t need to send my stuff out for testing.
Barn and others in the past have already proven that everything from grey market needs to be tested.
I wonder how many of the people that ended up in the Hospital awhile back because they were sent the wrong thing were on forums “justifying” how they don’t need to test because they vendor tested it…I wonder if we ask them now if they would still say the same thing?
This is not theory, this shit happened in the past, it will happen in the future.
I received an order from the now gone LN Peptides, IPA, MT2 and HCG. The MT2 and the HCG had the same exact cap color. What is the odds that they might have made a mistake when putting the labels on the kit? Now lets think about that for second… they have COAs for the HCG showing it is good. Great, I don’t need to test it because I have a COA with the right picture and my HCG is good, YA!!! Now I recon it with 3ml of great Hospira BAC water. Dam, I need to take my first dose. So I take my 10iu, I should be fine. Oh wait, it actually wasn’t HCG, it was MT2, now mixed way to strong. I take my 10iu, with in minutes I am throwing up and my head is on fire - dam I hope I don’t have a heart condition- now I am calling 911 hoping I don’t die…
People have ended up in the hospital because they were sent the wrong thing, it is not urban legend, it is not a story tale to scare kids into being good, it has happened.
So for anyone new here reading this. You better do your research and you will find out how many times things aren’t what the Vendors COA says it is..
Oh wait, didn’t Barn just have the same color cap vials of Reta they sent out test 5mg, 5mg, and 30mg… and what was that, less than 3 weeks ago?
Some Single vial vendors test as we do, and yes I buy from them, but they must meet a bunch of my criteria before I do..
But by all means ignore the fact that people have ended up in the hospital in the past because they were sent the wrong thing. But they wouldn’t have been in the hospital if they tested what they went sent now would they -
@Commander True. By that rule people taking branded GLPs should send one pen from their monthly kit, I mean prescription, for independent testing, because not a long time ago Wegovy pens had cat hair found INSIDE the pens.
Ozempic or Wegovy distribution chain was also compromised for a short while with fake pens making into the distribution.
You can't trust anything! Absolutely true.
@pep_researcher
Completely different and not the same, but again believe what you want.
Was it something different in the pen? Did they send MT2 instead of Wagovy? Or maybe it was CJC and not Wagovy.. ya that didn’t happen. And your right, we should definitely trust a Chinese factory selling stuff illegally to us over a licensed phama company.
You are again misrepresenting what I said. I also didn’t say test your tap water every day because of the flint Michigan mess.. -
Recently saw on their website that they're updating testing for Tirz. The recent batch of T30 has an updated COA for Purity & Heavy metals with Endo and Sterlity coming soon. I feel like this such a great move and will definitely sway more buyers. Hopefully it doesn't affect the price much.
@SoySebastian I'm beating myself for falling for all the fear mongering around RUO shutdown 4 months ago. Now I'm sitting on a 2 yr worth Reta inventory much of which only has purity, net content, and endotoxins COAs AND I paid more.
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@SoySebastian I'm beating myself for falling for all the fear mongering around RUO shutdown 4 months ago. Now I'm sitting on a 2 yr worth Reta inventory much of which only has purity, net content, and endotoxins COAs AND I paid more.
@pep_researcher We are all guilty of falling for it. I have the same issue I figure when the time comes, I will just get it tested for sterility and heavy metals. Most of us have done this with the storage flasks and inserts. Dessicant and so forth. We are all insane and the vendors know it. DROP, SALE, DROP, SALE, and the occasional inventory is running low, get your's now routine. Hospira is the worst what a complete scam with the 300 pct mark up these vendors get away with because we hoard this stuff.
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@pep_researcher We are all guilty of falling for it. I have the same issue I figure when the time comes, I will just get it tested for sterility and heavy metals. Most of us have done this with the storage flasks and inserts. Dessicant and so forth. We are all insane and the vendors know it. DROP, SALE, DROP, SALE, and the occasional inventory is running low, get your's now routine. Hospira is the worst what a complete scam with the 300 pct mark up these vendors get away with because we hoard this stuff.
@Stevepep I won't retest for heavy metals and sterility. If I considered it good for me 4 months ago with net content, purity, and endotoxins, they are not going to be dangerous 4 months later just sitting in my freezer.
Plus my collection is singles or doubles from multiple US resellers — to avoid one vendor's big faulty batch or source — so for additional testing I will be wasting almost half of my inventory.
I entered RUO 7 months ago and within 2 months there were rumors of RUO and Reta shutdown. So fell for it as a newbie. I didn't fall for the recent Hospira rumors, not hoarding any H BAC stock, and won't be falling for fear mongering again.
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@Stevepep I won't retest for heavy metals and sterility. If I considered it good for me 4 months ago with net content, purity, and endotoxins, they are not going to be dangerous 4 months later just sitting in my freezer.
Plus my collection is singles or doubles from multiple US resellers — to avoid one vendor's big faulty batch or source — so for additional testing I will be wasting almost half of my inventory.
I entered RUO 7 months ago and within 2 months there were rumors of RUO and Reta shutdown. So fell for it as a newbie. I didn't fall for the recent Hospira rumors, not hoarding any H BAC stock, and won't be falling for fear mongering again.
@pep_researcher I may do the same, who knows. It's down the road. What I have learned is that none of this is proprietary, there is no secret sauce. It's not going anywhere; anyone can make it. The Hospira thing was market manipulation at its finest. I didn't fall for it either. I actually found it pretty funny. I got so many texts about Hospira pulling everything, and I just responded with laughing emojis. They are cleaning up
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