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Why so many different "Wolverine" stacks?

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    Nuncles
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    I've noticed that many websites that reference the "Wolverine" stack have different peptides included in it. Some are blends in a single vial and some are stacks of different peptides. Any reason why they are different? Is there a true "Wolverine" stack and if so, what is it?

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      I've noticed that many websites that reference the "Wolverine" stack have different peptides included in it. Some are blends in a single vial and some are stacks of different peptides. Any reason why they are different? Is there a true "Wolverine" stack and if so, what is it?

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      @Nuncles No expert, but the blend of BPC157/TB500 works if you have achy knees, a cranky back. or shoulders. I messed up my back deadlifting. I couldn't move without excruciating pain. Within a week, I was walking, two weeks later I was running again, and then my knee and shoulder soreness disappeared. I used to wear a brace on my knee to run, and now I don't need it. I took a larger dose the first week right into my back. I could barely roll over to let my wife do it at the time.

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        I've noticed that many websites that reference the "Wolverine" stack have different peptides included in it. Some are blends in a single vial and some are stacks of different peptides. Any reason why they are different? Is there a true "Wolverine" stack and if so, what is it?

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        EXTROPIAN
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        @Nuncles the Wolverine has bpc and tb only. GLOW has bpc, tb, and GHK-Cu. KLOW has BPC, TB, GHK-Cu and KPV.

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          @Nuncles the Wolverine has bpc and tb only. GLOW has bpc, tb, and GHK-Cu. KLOW has BPC, TB, GHK-Cu and KPV.

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          @EXTROPIAN said:

          @Nuncles the Wolverine has bpc and tb only. GLOW has bpc, tb, and GHK-Cu. KLOW has BPC, TB, GHK-Cu and KPV.

          Facts

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            Nuncles
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            @extropian Yeah, I've seen places that refer to Glow and Klow as wolverine stacks but I am familiar enough to know that those blends had their own name. But I've also seen where they refer to wolverine as BPC, TB, and KPV (no GHK-CU). There just doesn't seem to be any consistency on the Internet. I'M SHOCKED! That's sarcasm, by the way, for those who read everything as literal. I just wanted to know if there was something else to it outside of these websites and social media peeps just using it as a buzzword for marketing.

            So is it safe to say that BPC-157 and TB-500 (not TB4) is the OG Wolverine stack?

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              @extropian Yeah, I've seen places that refer to Glow and Klow as wolverine stacks but I am familiar enough to know that those blends had their own name. But I've also seen where they refer to wolverine as BPC, TB, and KPV (no GHK-CU). There just doesn't seem to be any consistency on the Internet. I'M SHOCKED! That's sarcasm, by the way, for those who read everything as literal. I just wanted to know if there was something else to it outside of these websites and social media peeps just using it as a buzzword for marketing.

              So is it safe to say that BPC-157 and TB-500 (not TB4) is the OG Wolverine stack?

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              Eleanor
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              @Nuncles said:

              So is it safe to say that BPC-157 and TB-500 (not TB4) is the OG Wolverine stack?

              That's my question too. I always understood the original to be with TB4.

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                They are selling blends because people are buying them. I started with Wolverine and now research Klow. Personally, I don’t see why I would research anything except Klow for the foreseeable future.

                I assume the new Deadpool stack is for people who are afraid of GHK because of the sting, even though Klow doesn’t sting at all. And, you know, marketing. Eventually there will be a stack for every Marvel superhero. There will also be stacks for DC superhero’s, but nobody will care. 😉

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                  They are selling blends because people are buying them. I started with Wolverine and now research Klow. Personally, I don’t see why I would research anything except Klow for the foreseeable future.

                  I assume the new Deadpool stack is for people who are afraid of GHK because of the sting, even though Klow doesn’t sting at all. And, you know, marketing. Eventually there will be a stack for every Marvel superhero. There will also be stacks for DC superhero’s, but nobody will care. 😉

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                  @ResearchCat said:

                  I assume the new Deadpool stack is for people who are afraid of GHK because of the sting,

                  Not the sting that concerns me, but the Cu. It WILL go trotting off into the wilderness, I don't care what they tell you. I suffered through college level Organic Chemistry and I personally am sure of it.

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                    @ResearchCat said:

                    I assume the new Deadpool stack is for people who are afraid of GHK because of the sting,

                    Not the sting that concerns me, but the Cu. It WILL go trotting off into the wilderness, I don't care what they tell you. I suffered through college level Organic Chemistry and I personally am sure of it.

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                    @Eleanor I'm interested because I don't have the knowledge - what about Cu concerns you? I've been taking it for a month or so, so I'd like to know if there is a real concern to using it. Thank you!

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                      @Eleanor I'm interested because I don't have the knowledge - what about Cu concerns you? I've been taking it for a month or so, so I'd like to know if there is a real concern to using it. Thank you!

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                      @Canineriot If you look at my post above yours, it tells you. Eventually, the copper breaks away from the rest of the string and becomes lodged in various places. You can go into copper overload and it's a bear to get rid of; also, copper can mess with zinc levels.

                      To be fair, there's are many people on this forum who swear by Cu, but I have immune dysfunction and don't want to take the chance of yet another added imbalance.

                      It really is up to the individual. I just choose not to do it subQ. Copper is great in topical creams though.

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                        Nuncles
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                        @researchcat What made you decide to go with Klow instead of Glow, Deadpool or any of the other similar blends?

                        @eleanor Someone told me about the Zinc issue. He suggested taking additional zinc while taking GHK-CU to balance it out. I hadn't looked into that yet though.

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                          @nuncles I started with Wolverine and it absolutely helped me. I noticed within a month or so that my knees and shoulders didn’t hurt as much. Then I grudgingly went to Glow at a friend’s suggestion. This also worked: feeling better, lifting harder, both my bride and I found skin, hair, and nails improving. Went to Klow for inflammation support. Seems to be helping.

                          Most noticeable difference with respect to exercise is that I rarely get muscle soreness even when lifting heavy, and while I still have back pain, my shoulders and knees are great. One challenge is that your connective tissue and tendons don’t necessarily get stronger when your muscles do, and I have gotten injured going too hard.

                          Anyway, I am getting good results with Klow so I don’t see the need to mess around with other stuff. Though as I have mentioned elsewhere, I add wolverine to my Klow sometimes.

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                            WRT Zinc, I do take 50mg zinc every day for test support, and my labs came back fine despite having researched Klow for the past few months.

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                              WRT Zinc, I do take 50mg zinc every day for test support, and my labs came back fine despite having researched Klow for the past few months.

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                              @ResearchCat said:

                              WRT Zinc, I do take 50mg zinc every day for test support, and my labs came back fine despite having researched Klow for the past few months.

                              The reason I don't take Cu products that WILL mess with my zinc is Epstein Barr. If you're clear of that, go for it.

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                                I've run a 10 week cycle of 8mg klow. Now I run 6mg plus kpv and bpc and cartalax and Ara. It has helped quite a bit with old surgery sites. I can sleep longer in one position. Trying to save my other knee from having to be replaced like my right one. Was over a year ago and still dealing with issues. Also down 79 pounds has helped the knee.

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                                  @Canineriot If you look at my post above yours, it tells you. Eventually, the copper breaks away from the rest of the string and becomes lodged in various places. You can go into copper overload and it's a bear to get rid of; also, copper can mess with zinc levels.

                                  To be fair, there's are many people on this forum who swear by Cu, but I have immune dysfunction and don't want to take the chance of yet another added imbalance.

                                  It really is up to the individual. I just choose not to do it subQ. Copper is great in topical creams though.

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                                  @Eleanor Thanks for the reply - definitely food for thought. I appreciate it.

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                                    @Eleanor Thanks for the reply - definitely food for thought. I appreciate it.

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                                    @Canineriot
                                    If what you're doing is working for you, I wouldn't change it. I also have a bad knee, but above that concern is immune issues/EBV, so I might be more likely to react from the copper. Everyone is different.

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