DSIP - Sleep Help
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That traz life is rough. Been there. Ill rip a milli of dsip but man that Pinealon....Changed me.
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@Randy Pinealon for the win. I had to dose up to 2mg to see the impact but it really helped sleep a lot.
@Stevepep @randy I went with 2.5 mgs for 20 days stacked with 1 mg Epitalon and it worked very well for my REM sleep. I was also doing Tes/Ipa which helps my deep sleep. Since I am still on my 16 weeks of Tes/Ipa my deep sleep continues to be amazing but now that I've been off of the Pin/Epi for 6 weeks, I have noticed my REM starting to dive a little.
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@Stevepep @randy I went with 2.5 mgs for 20 days stacked with 1 mg Epitalon and it worked very well for my REM sleep. I was also doing Tes/Ipa which helps my deep sleep. Since I am still on my 16 weeks of Tes/Ipa my deep sleep continues to be amazing but now that I've been off of the Pin/Epi for 6 weeks, I have noticed my REM starting to dive a little.
@Shaqdiesel i have a 10 pack of Epitalon just waiting to cycle off some other stuff to try it.
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@Shaqdiesel i have a 10 pack of Epitalon just waiting to cycle off some other stuff to try it.
@Stevepep I really loved the 2 running simultaneously. And I did late afternoon, not morning or right before bed. I could probably fine tune my time of injection to be better but like I said, what I did was quite effective for me.
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@stevepep @shaqdiesel
So late-afternoon/pre-bed worked out better than the “circadian alignment” morning-dose? Nice. Was this true for Pinealon AND Epithalon or just one? -
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So late-afternoon/pre-bed worked out better than the “circadian alignment” morning-dose? Nice. Was this true for Pinealon AND Epithalon or just one?@Jake_PepTron I did Pinealon in the morning it was a game changer but like I say I didn’t notice anything until I titrated up to 2mg and I just did the 20 day cycle I titrated up fast after a couple of days. I have been on DSIP for a couple of days at a low dose of 100mcg and haven’t noticed anything different I may increase it to 150 and see if anything changes. My sleep score changed a bunch on Pinealon way more rem and deep which I was getting very little of.
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@stevepep @shaqdiesel
So late-afternoon/pre-bed worked out better than the “circadian alignment” morning-dose? Nice. Was this true for Pinealon AND Epithalon or just one?@Jake_PepTron I did them both at that time.
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I've tried the DSIP, Pinealon and Cartalax [I didn't take it for sleep but that is what some people report] to no effect.
Currently getting good results with Tesamorelin, just throwing it out there for anybody to add to the arsenal. -
I ordered DSIP for my husband and I just ordered 2 vials of Epitalon from EZ Peptides through their crypto sale. I was going to order a few vials of Pinealon, but I did not see it on their site.
He has done a cycle of SS – 31 and MOTS-c. Should I have him try the D ECSi P first or the Epitalon? Should I look elsewhere for some Pinealon. His goal is to sleep half as well as I do! Lol recommendations, please
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Tried DSIP alone. Nada. Tried CJC/Ipa for sleep. Nada. Stacked the rest of my vial of DSIP with the CJC. Nada. Tried Epitalon. Nada. Before I try Pinealon I think I'll do a cycle of SS-31 to repair my mitochondria.
@DocCherie try to identify the reason of your problems with sleep first, you don't need to repair what's not broken.
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@DocCherie try to identify the reason of your problems with sleep first, you don't need to repair what's not broken.
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Tried DSIP alone. Nada. Tried CJC/Ipa for sleep. Nada. Stacked the rest of my vial of DSIP with the CJC. Nada. Tried Epitalon. Nada. Before I try Pinealon I think I'll do a cycle of SS-31 to repair my mitochondria.
@DocCherie Hopefully the SS-31 before Pinealon works for you. I researched the Pinealon first and…nada (like the others you mentioned which also did nada for me for sleep)! I’m researching with SS-31 now and have had slightly better sleep the past week so there’s hope!
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Mostly thru a vial of DSIP and may just toss it. Does nothin for me.
I just got a few Epithalon vials to try for sleep (not telomeres)… but keep getting mixed reports on whether or not to take it at sunrise to align circadian-rhythm or before bed.
I did a few vials of Pinealon at one point, but was trying it for cognitive stuff in the morning… so I missed out on evenings.
Maybe I just need to swap timing on a few of these. Can’t afford to try all peptides forever
At least now I’ve got a few peptides that I trust for the long haul (none above), so I’m grateful for that.…wish I could get that CJC/IPA sleep I was getting on the first few weeks of it! Still chasing that
Mostly thru a vial of DSIP and may just toss it. Does nothin for me.
I just got a few Epithalon vials to try for sleep (not telomeres)… but keep getting mixed reports on whether or not to take it at sunrise to align circadian-rhythm or before bed.
I was getting some mixed results on DSIP as well but currently running 5mg Epitalon per night and am sleeping sooooo good lately. I'm not 100% convinced its soley the Epi, but it sure seems to help keep me in a deep sleep all night so far.
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@DocCherie Hopefully the SS-31 before Pinealon works for you. I researched the Pinealon first and…nada (like the others you mentioned which also did nada for me for sleep)! I’m researching with SS-31 now and have had slightly better sleep the past week so there’s hope!
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@TBone so good to hear! I'm actually modifying a bit and will start with Urolithin A to clean up, then SS-31 to repair then Mots-C to rebuild the population. Good luck to us both!
@DocCherie let us know your experience with Urolithin A. I am very skeptical of that one, its research is done by its seller and the results are brushed up but really not impressive. I have a whole box of bottles of it and I am too disinterested to use them.
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@DocCherie let us know your experience with Urolithin A. I am very skeptical of that one, its research is done by its seller and the results are brushed up but really not impressive. I have a whole box of bottles of it and I am too disinterested to use them.
@vpeptides I like the explanation given by Dr. Ashley Froese on a recent YT video about SS-31 on why it might be a good idea to start with the Urolithin A first. I put it in the class of all the other supplements I take. I am hoping/assuming they are working in the background and probably doesn't hurt to try. That said, I'll only run it for 4-6 weeks until my supply runs out. It's a bit pricey.
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