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KOVERA LABS Certified: 07/20/2026

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    <a href=KOVERA date.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" />

    Product purchased over a week ago got certified yesterday. Hmmm...

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      That could mean they shipped it to you after they received a new batch and sent it to the lab but before it got certified. See https://koveralabs.com/#/verify?code=KVR-2026-8502F1
      The first tests were done 06/08 and 06/09, then there was "14 day incubation period". That would be ending on 06/22. So, the certification date of 07/20 was about a month later than the results were obtained.

      attentiion is all you need

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        It’s not uncommon. Some will send out the batch to clients before they get the full report. Nexaph does it at times.

        “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
        It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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          My understanding is glacier doesnt sell products before they get results back. Ive spoken with steve in depth about this. Shoot him an email and let us know what they say.

          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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              My point was that all the tests must have been completed by June 22, but the "certification date" is July 20, so there is 28 day gap when the results might have been known by the company, so they started selling it. Whatever happened why they "certified" it so late, could be a spelling error so they asked to redo the COA or anything else, it may not be as important in this particular case.

              attentiion is all you need

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                Nexaph does with their preorder sales for sure.

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                • RandyR Randy

                  My understanding is glacier doesnt sell products before they get results back. Ive spoken with steve in depth about this. Shoot him an email and let us know what they say.

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                  @Randy
                  I emailed Kovera about it but never heard back.
                  I had to toss the vial because I left it out all night 😞 ...only got one pin out of it.
                  It was a single vial I bought to passively test against another vendor I was running that did not produce any observable changes.
                  BTW, is vanguard my best alternative to AFI for endotoxin stand alone testing? AFI is not currently taking new orders.

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                    @Randy
                    I emailed Kovera about it but never heard back.
                    I had to toss the vial because I left it out all night 😞 ...only got one pin out of it.
                    It was a single vial I bought to passively test against another vendor I was running that did not produce any observable changes.
                    BTW, is vanguard my best alternative to AFI for endotoxin stand alone testing? AFI is not currently taking new orders.

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                    @mary For future reference, leaving a vial out overnight is not usually a problem. Most peps will be fine with that. Especially if it only had one pin.

                    “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                    It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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                    • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                      @mary For future reference, leaving a vial out overnight is not usually a problem. Most peps will be fine with that. Especially if it only had one pin.

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                      @Snake-Pepskin

                      It was out for about 18 hrs. But, yeah, I could have refiltered it and tested a small dose.

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                        @Snake-Pepskin

                        It was out for about 18 hrs. But, yeah, I could have refiltered it and tested a small dose.

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                        @mary You wouldn't even need to refilter it.

                        "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                          @Randy
                          I emailed Kovera about it but never heard back.
                          I had to toss the vial because I left it out all night 😞 ...only got one pin out of it.
                          It was a single vial I bought to passively test against another vendor I was running that did not produce any observable changes.
                          BTW, is vanguard my best alternative to AFI for endotoxin stand alone testing? AFI is not currently taking new orders.

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                          @mary not surprised. I'm not a fan of the guy but in his defense a lot of these labs are one or two people and running on all cylinders .

                          He popped up on the form about a week ago.

                          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                            @Randy
                            I emailed Kovera about it but never heard back.
                            I had to toss the vial because I left it out all night 😞 ...only got one pin out of it.
                            It was a single vial I bought to passively test against another vendor I was running that did not produce any observable changes.
                            BTW, is vanguard my best alternative to AFI for endotoxin stand alone testing? AFI is not currently taking new orders.

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                            @mary yeah john is overwhelmed with tests right now.

                            I like trustpointe too.

                            "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                              @mary yeah john is overwhelmed with tests right now.

                              I like trustpointe too.

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                              @Randy

                              Thanks, I remember a video interview with him a while back.

                              If anyone is interested:
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb8gKYMkJIQ

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                                @mary You wouldn't even need to refilter it.

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                                @Randy

                                You guys are making me cry; its not the first vial I have discarded.

                                I am very sensitive to contaminants, but you have convinced me that I am being too paranoid.

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                                  I think that most of the labs are overwhelmed right now. They are all probably feeling growing pains. As Jeff said, they all probably started off as one or two man shops and now are insanely busy. Growing while still trying to do the work is really hard in any business.
                                  The question is, will testing peptides continue to get more popular, or will it die off in a couple if years. If popularity dies off a lot of these labs that geared up with equipment and staff will take a hard fall.

                                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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