Endotoxin testing?
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Hello all!
Fairly new to the space, been lurking around for a little bit. I've noticed that many vendors in the directory don't test for endotoxins. My question is, do most of your rats not care about this? I'm figuring that almost no one would be testing this for themselves if buying from the directory vendors. I'm just looking for an affordable source that I can trust. So far the best bang for the buck I have found is Evolve Biopep. Great prices and free fast shipping. They test out the wazoo, which keeps my sasquatch happy and less concerned when pinned. They just don't have everything I'm looking for (I suppose no one vendor does though).
I'd love to hear the thoughts of all you smart researchers who have more experience than me. I'm excited to be on this journey.
Thanks in advance.
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Hello all!
Fairly new to the space, been lurking around for a little bit. I've noticed that many vendors in the directory don't test for endotoxins. My question is, do most of your rats not care about this? I'm figuring that almost no one would be testing this for themselves if buying from the directory vendors. I'm just looking for an affordable source that I can trust. So far the best bang for the buck I have found is Evolve Biopep. Great prices and free fast shipping. They test out the wazoo, which keeps my sasquatch happy and less concerned when pinned. They just don't have everything I'm looking for (I suppose no one vendor does though).
I'd love to hear the thoughts of all you smart researchers who have more experience than me. I'm excited to be on this journey.
Thanks in advance.
@kRazy-pep most vendors are doing full screen testing now. Endotoxins are a major outlier in peptides. Testing for them requires costly equipment and a high level of know how plus the right environment which based on the videos we have seen of some of these labs the conditions are just not there to test for them accurately, stick with the vendors that most people use. Just my opinion but the larger suppliers who have a long term reputation give you the best chance of getting what you paid for. Many suppliers just repackage stuff, reuse COA’s or worse. Shopping for the lowest price, chasing deals will eventually cost you. I use Ez Peptides for single vials and Nexaph for packs. They have their own facility and have been time tested. There are many others like Mile High, Crush, Glacier that I have used and also have very positive feedback. There is some fun in the Chase game, chasing grey, chasing every drop and sale but in the end you just want to get the product you bought without any bad stuff in it. You may pay a little more but you can put your head on the pillow at night and not worry that you just injected some bad stuff over $5 or so.
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Hi @krazy-pep There are many vendors who now include Endo, some if this is discussed in this post to help you get started: https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/4406
I've been keeping a running list of vendors I use and the testing they include for my own sanity sake and need to get it updated
Some of the vendors on that list have most products fully tested, while there are some products still on their shelves that contain less testing. To give an example, many vendors display/list the CoAs historically which is a nice to have, especially if I've purchased a product months ago and forgot to download their CoA I know I can find it there.I don't know if that was helpful, I haven't had my coffee yet this morning and feel like I'm rambling lol
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Hi @krazy-pep There are many vendors who now include Endo, some if this is discussed in this post to help you get started: https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/4406
I've been keeping a running list of vendors I use and the testing they include for my own sanity sake and need to get it updated
Some of the vendors on that list have most products fully tested, while there are some products still on their shelves that contain less testing. To give an example, many vendors display/list the CoAs historically which is a nice to have, especially if I've purchased a product months ago and forgot to download their CoA I know I can find it there.I don't know if that was helpful, I haven't had my coffee yet this morning and feel like I'm rambling lol
@WisGal64 nexaph does full panel testing now. It used to be full panel third party testing as well but they stopped paying for full panel third party since they added it to their own COA’s. Nexaph and EZ are essential the same. It’s important to look at the quality of the testing as well that’s up to the user. But certain labs are far lower on my list of trustworthy labs than others. I see vanguard, trustpoint or Jano and I feel confident. I see Kovera, ILS, Freedom not so much it may not stop me from buying but they sit at a lower level for me also far cheaper to get testing done than the top 3. There is likely a reason for that.
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@kRazy-pep most vendors are doing full screen testing now. Endotoxins are a major outlier in peptides. Testing for them requires costly equipment and a high level of know how plus the right environment which based on the videos we have seen of some of these labs the conditions are just not there to test for them accurately, stick with the vendors that most people use. Just my opinion but the larger suppliers who have a long term reputation give you the best chance of getting what you paid for. Many suppliers just repackage stuff, reuse COA’s or worse. Shopping for the lowest price, chasing deals will eventually cost you. I use Ez Peptides for single vials and Nexaph for packs. They have their own facility and have been time tested. There are many others like Mile High, Crush, Glacier that I have used and also have very positive feedback. There is some fun in the Chase game, chasing grey, chasing every drop and sale but in the end you just want to get the product you bought without any bad stuff in it. You may pay a little more but you can put your head on the pillow at night and not worry that you just injected some bad stuff over $5 or so.
@Stevepep Thanks for the info and links! I didn't mean to come off as if I were chasing the cheapest, quality and trust are more important to me. If it was just price I would go full grey. My main concern is/was endo, it's good to hear that it is an outlier. There just seems to be a large price gap between some of the vendors. I'm planning on trying Nexaph here soon. Glad to hear that members have been happy with them.
Thanks again for your expertice! -
Hi @krazy-pep There are many vendors who now include Endo, some if this is discussed in this post to help you get started: https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/4406
I've been keeping a running list of vendors I use and the testing they include for my own sanity sake and need to get it updated
Some of the vendors on that list have most products fully tested, while there are some products still on their shelves that contain less testing. To give an example, many vendors display/list the CoAs historically which is a nice to have, especially if I've purchased a product months ago and forgot to download their CoA I know I can find it there.I don't know if that was helpful, I haven't had my coffee yet this morning and feel like I'm rambling lol
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@Stevepep Thanks for the info and links! I didn't mean to come off as if I were chasing the cheapest, quality and trust are more important to me. If it was just price I would go full grey. My main concern is/was endo, it's good to hear that it is an outlier. There just seems to be a large price gap between some of the vendors. I'm planning on trying Nexaph here soon. Glad to hear that members have been happy with them.
Thanks again for your expertice!@kRazy-pep it comes down to your own risk tolerance. There are bunch of really good vendors on here. I can only comment on the ones I have tried and researched, and also my own mistakes. Most of us have been burned. Me more than once. You can't go wrong with EZ Peptides or Nexaph. I really like Glacier Aminos, Mile High, Southern, and others, but when I see Kovera as the lab, I have some concerns which may or may not be real concerns. All of those vendors do full panel testing, which includes endotoxins. If you see Janoshik, Trust Point, or Vantage as the lab, that, for me, is the gold standard as we sit here today, so keep that in mind. Just my opinion; others may disagree. Hope this helps
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