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Nasals: BPC-157 and SS-31.

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    I had a long subQ run and feeling great! I covered the mitochodria, metabolic, repair and quick recovery. For those who are starting and those still researching, it's worth it. I am more present and biologically aware. I am now going nuero (la cabesa). I am ready to research nasals further. I been doing semax and selank nasals for a while now. SS-31 and BPC-157 are in sprayer now. Anyone have any experience with BPC-157 nasal or any other nasal they highly recommend? I was dropped on my head as a child so i am hoping to recover all I can. Damn mom, I could have been a genuis in an underground bunker trying to take over the world! lol

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      One guy used cerebrolysin intranasally and swore it was good for him

      attentiion is all you need

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      • vpeptidesV vpeptides

        One guy used cerebrolysin intranasally and swore it was good for him

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        @vpeptides here?

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          @vpeptides here?

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          @EXTROPIAN not here, on youtube, also pinealon

          attentiion is all you need

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            What do you recon the pep with, Saline?
            How do you know it keeps in the sprayer without the benzyl?

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            • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

              What do you recon the pep with, Saline?
              How do you know it keeps in the sprayer without the benzyl?

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              @Stan-Douglas Both SS and PBC are 10mg. I recon each with 1ml of BAC. Then add them to the sprayers w 2ml of saline, yes. Saline has sodium chloride (salt) I have recon more then once and haven't felt a loss of potency.

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              • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

                @Stan-Douglas Both SS and PBC are 10mg. I recon each with 1ml of BAC. Then add them to the sprayers w 2ml of saline, yes. Saline has sodium chloride (salt) I have recon more then once and haven't felt a loss of potency.

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                @EXTROPIAN said:

                1ml of BAC. Then add them to the sprayers w 2ml of saline

                Does anyone else do this?

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                  Salt has a ph around 7. I don't think it should affect it. Might even serve as a buffer or a preservitive.

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                    @extropian agreed, I wouldn’t worry about the ph for saline. You could also recon many peps with saline(with some notable exceptions). My issue is with the dosage. SS31 is generally dosed pretty high compared to BPC. Also, the price of SS is pretty high, so I would want to make sure your rat gets full effect. I found that with nasal, it’s harder to know what you’re actually administering. Not that it’s bad, but it might be wasteful.

                    A perfect example of nasal vs subQ, from my research is PT-141. Inter-nasal is nice, but subQ is the “madman” protocol. To get the dosage I’m looking for out of a spray, I’d worry about drowning my rat.

                    “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                    It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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                    • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                      @extropian agreed, I wouldn’t worry about the ph for saline. You could also recon many peps with saline(with some notable exceptions). My issue is with the dosage. SS31 is generally dosed pretty high compared to BPC. Also, the price of SS is pretty high, so I would want to make sure your rat gets full effect. I found that with nasal, it’s harder to know what you’re actually administering. Not that it’s bad, but it might be wasteful.

                      A perfect example of nasal vs subQ, from my research is PT-141. Inter-nasal is nice, but subQ is the “madman” protocol. To get the dosage I’m looking for out of a spray, I’d worry about drowning my rat.

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                      @Snake-Pepskin I have ran MOTSC, NAD+ and SS-31 subQ way over two month. Out the gate responded well to motsc and nad. I wasn't sure if I even needed ss31 but I ran all three together just in case at 1-2mg dosages ea and nad 10-20mg. I still have a few last dosages left. I gave the pinning a break for week now and my energy has been on point. Yes I know ss31 bioavailability is even less nasal. So bpc and ss31 are a test. Who knows I may discover the Cerebro stack. lol

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                        Lol, that’s TRUE research. I salute you. Let us know how it goes.

                        “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                        It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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                        • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

                          What do you recon the pep with, Saline?
                          How do you know it keeps in the sprayer without the benzyl?

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                          @Stan-Douglas I make nasals. I recon mine with 2ml BAC and then put into the nasal sprayers along with the correct amount of a generic saline nasal spray from Walmart or Walgreens. It is 0.65% sodium chloride and some other preservatives. I like using that because it it made especially for the nose and offers some preservatives. Then you store them in the fridge. I am researching with Selank, Semax, GHK-CU, SS-31. I am going to swap out my GHK-CU for Klow as soon as that arrives.

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                            @Stan-Douglas I make nasals. I recon mine with 2ml BAC and then put into the nasal sprayers along with the correct amount of a generic saline nasal spray from Walmart or Walgreens. It is 0.65% sodium chloride and some other preservatives. I like using that because it it made especially for the nose and offers some preservatives. Then you store them in the fridge. I am researching with Selank, Semax, GHK-CU, SS-31. I am going to swap out my GHK-CU for Klow as soon as that arrives.

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                            @chandrab
                            GHK+.9?
                            Even diluted, I'm not brave enough to even attempt this once.

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                              @stan-douglas Questions 🙂 are you using 2ml bac in the nasal for Semax/Selank due to it being a full vial of each? Are you going to make a nasal with KLOW?

                              “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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                                @stan-douglas Questions 🙂 are you using 2ml bac in the nasal for Semax/Selank due to it being a full vial of each? Are you going to make a nasal with KLOW?

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                                @WisGal64
                                I was pondering a way to make it with BPC or a full Wolv blend to combat my random nose bleeds Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been to the doctor. I've had the sinuplasty and turbinate reduction, I rinse daily with salt water and do the saline spray... it still gushes at the most inconvenient times: stepping into the gym, right after my first strip of lawn cutting, as SOON as I flop the wet mop on the floor to clean the kitchen!

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                                  @chandrab
                                  GHK+.9?
                                  Even diluted, I'm not brave enough to even attempt this once.

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                                  @Stan-Douglas I guess I am not understanding what you are saying? Please explain for me so I understand. Thanks. My dilution brings my GHK-CU to ~533mcg or .533mg per spray. So 2 sprays is roughly 1.66mg.

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                                    @stan-douglas Questions 🙂 are you using 2ml bac in the nasal for Semax/Selank due to it being a full vial of each? Are you going to make a nasal with KLOW?

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                                    @WisGal64 I don't know if you were meaning to asking me. I do use a full 2ml of BAC. I make each in separate sprayers so that I have control over the individual dosing. The 2ml of BAC diluted by the nasal spray solution I use is not an irritant to my rat's nose.

                                    Yes, I am going to do it with Klow. I will stop the GHK-CU and do a 30 day Klow cycle. I figure, even though it may not be as effective as sq's, it would be like microdosing. I guess that's why we call this research.

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                                      @Stan-Douglas I guess I am not understanding what you are saying? Please explain for me so I understand. Thanks. My dilution brings my GHK-CU to ~533mcg or .533mg per spray. So 2 sprays is roughly 1.66mg.

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                                      @chandrab said:

                                      I guess I am not understanding what you are saying

                                      I appreciate you taking the time to try to understand!
                                      My concern isn't about the mg of pepX but the percentage of benzyl alcohol going into the nasal cavity. You mentioned diluting it 50% with saline but I'm STILL apprehensive.

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                                        1ml of Benzyl alcohol in BAC at 0.9% diluded by 2ml of Saline will give you 0.3% of Benzyl alcohol. A standard saline nasal wash contains a salt concentration of 0.9% sodium chloride. You will get 0.6% more sodium chloride in your spray than 0.3% benzyl alcohol.

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                                        • Stan DouglasS Stan Douglas

                                          @chandrab said:

                                          I guess I am not understanding what you are saying

                                          I appreciate you taking the time to try to understand!
                                          My concern isn't about the mg of pepX but the percentage of benzyl alcohol going into the nasal cavity. You mentioned diluting it 50% with saline but I'm STILL apprehensive.

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                                          @Stan-Douglas I understand now :). I guess the most concentrated my solution ever gets is 2 ml BAC to 8ml NS. Thank you for taking the time to explain. You could also recon with distilled water or even the nasal spray. I just do bac out of habit.

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