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  • vpeptidesV vpeptides

    @Stevepep actually Freedom COA shows MS chart, here what it is, and it is not a full intact Tesa molecule, it's a contaminant. Freedom also identifies Histidine spike but it is ignored, and its m/z doesn't match these levels.

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    AI guesses it can be Phenylalanine or another source-induced breakdown product of Tesamorelin. It could even be created by the measurement operation itself.

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    @vpeptides to be honest I have zero faith in the ms chart from freedom they identified the purity over 99pct but it is a side chain so who knows

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      I wish Nexaph had lower prices… They were not too bad before that price jump, still not as cheap as the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

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      @Commander said:

      I wish Nexaph had lower prices… They were not too bad before that price jump, still not as cheap as the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

      We gave in and ordered the KLOW from them but disappointed when we checked the COA that the gku-cu is lower than it should be and the copper was well below most. Hopefully it still has enough in it to help. Thankfully we got it when they did the extra 15% off....still pricey though.

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        @Commander said:

        I wish Nexaph had lower prices… They were not too bad before that price jump, still not as cheap as the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

        We gave in and ordered the KLOW from them but disappointed when we checked the COA that the gku-cu is lower than it should be and the copper was well below most. Hopefully it still has enough in it to help. Thankfully we got it when they did the extra 15% off....still pricey though.

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        @michellefouch said:

        @Commander said:

        I wish Nexaph had lower prices… They were not too bad before that price jump, still not as cheap as the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

        We gave in and ordered the KLOW from them but disappointed when we checked the COA that the gku-cu is lower than it should be and the copper was well below most. Hopefully it still has enough in it to help. Thankfully we got it when they did the extra 15% off....still pricey though.

        That sucks. And Nexaph’s KLOW is expensive. But remember , anyone selling peptides is Grey. You just have domestic grey and Chinese Grey. The difference is how fast you get it and if you can pay with credit car or just crypto.

        My guess (and in this space everything is just a guess) is that we will start to see domestic vendors start to only take crypto soon. Elli is coming down hard on people selling peptides and one of the ways they do it, is going after the merchant service providers. So eventually they will not be able to take credit cards…

        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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          @michellefouch said:

          @Commander said:

          I wish Nexaph had lower prices… They were not too bad before that price jump, still not as cheap as the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

          We gave in and ordered the KLOW from them but disappointed when we checked the COA that the gku-cu is lower than it should be and the copper was well below most. Hopefully it still has enough in it to help. Thankfully we got it when they did the extra 15% off....still pricey though.

          That sucks. And Nexaph’s KLOW is expensive. But remember , anyone selling peptides is Grey. You just have domestic grey and Chinese Grey. The difference is how fast you get it and if you can pay with credit car or just crypto.

          My guess (and in this space everything is just a guess) is that we will start to see domestic vendors start to only take crypto soon. Elli is coming down hard on people selling peptides and one of the ways they do it, is going after the merchant service providers. So eventually they will not be able to take credit cards…

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          @Commander nexaph does manufacture in the US so there is that distinction. I see this as important as they can control batches accurately with caps and crimps and batch numbers. To me it’s the biggest selling point because you have the best chance of getting what you ordered. Like @randy says it’s the easy button no worries. The downside is the cost, it’s more than true grey.

          I think Nexaph starts going to 15pct off for crypto and 5 for bank payments. The processing fees have apparently gone up to 9pct with a large hold back.

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            @michellefouch said:

            @Commander said:

            I wish Nexaph had lower prices… They were not too bad before that price jump, still not as cheap as the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

            We gave in and ordered the KLOW from them but disappointed when we checked the COA that the gku-cu is lower than it should be and the copper was well below most. Hopefully it still has enough in it to help. Thankfully we got it when they did the extra 15% off....still pricey though.

            That sucks. And Nexaph’s KLOW is expensive. But remember , anyone selling peptides is Grey. You just have domestic grey and Chinese Grey. The difference is how fast you get it and if you can pay with credit car or just crypto.

            My guess (and in this space everything is just a guess) is that we will start to see domestic vendors start to only take crypto soon. Elli is coming down hard on people selling peptides and one of the ways they do it, is going after the merchant service providers. So eventually they will not be able to take credit cards…

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            @Commander TBH, given what I have seen in the 2A space, I am surprised that the government stooges paid for by big pharma(i.e. the Senate) haven’t tried to debank peptide sellers sooner. I assume it’s because it isn’t as easy to identify a peptide vendor as it is a firearms and related items vendor.

            My state has convinced most sellers in the 2A space to refuse to ship here even when it is perfectly legal to do so simply because the threat of a lawsuit would bankrupt most small companies. Similarly, most vendors won’t ship ‘diabetes supplies’ here either, which is why there are a bunch of threads about finding syringes and needles.

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              @Commander said:

              I wish Nexaph had lower prices… They were not too bad before that price jump, still not as cheap as the other grey market suppliers but reasonable enough where it was a good place for people to go buy 1 or 2 kits at a time from. But $468 for a kit of KLOW, who could really afford that, not me I don’t have that kind of cash...

              We gave in and ordered the KLOW from them but disappointed when we checked the COA that the gku-cu is lower than it should be and the copper was well below most. Hopefully it still has enough in it to help. Thankfully we got it when they did the extra 15% off....still pricey though.

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              @michellefouch I know it isn’t always ideal, but you can try to wait until the COA is out before buying to make sure the mix works for you. I know this sometimes means the batch will sell out prior to that. I am a bit more flexible on blends like KLOW, but I also haven’t gotten a batch that hasn’t been at least 10-15% overfilled yet. The ‘worst’ I’ve gotten was right at label strength.

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                @michellefouch I know it isn’t always ideal, but you can try to wait until the COA is out before buying to make sure the mix works for you. I know this sometimes means the batch will sell out prior to that. I am a bit more flexible on blends like KLOW, but I also haven’t gotten a batch that hasn’t been at least 10-15% overfilled yet. The ‘worst’ I’ve gotten was right at label strength.

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                @ResearchCat sigh I should have waited but everything else we've purchased from them was overfilled so just went for it. Thankfully it isn't way off..... GHK-Cu tested at GHK 43.32 Cu 6.02 & GHK 42.98 CU 5.79 & GHK 42.29 Cu 5.85. All the other tested between 11.3 and 11.94. Live a learn. On a positive note it won't sting as much.

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                  That might be the batch I just got. I haven’t opened it yet to check the COA. This is the first time I have ever seen or noticed the GHK and Cu broken into two separate amounts.

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                    @Commander nexaph does manufacture in the US so there is that distinction. I see this as important as they can control batches accurately with caps and crimps and batch numbers. To me it’s the biggest selling point because you have the best chance of getting what you ordered. Like @randy says it’s the easy button no worries. The downside is the cost, it’s more than true grey.

                    I think Nexaph starts going to 15pct off for crypto and 5 for bank payments. The processing fees have apparently gone up to 9pct with a large hold back.

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                    @Stevepep wrong. They do not manufacture in the U.S. They lyopholize. They source all the raw powder from China and then lyopholize it here in the U.S

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                      @Stevepep wrong. They do not manufacture in the U.S. They lyopholize. They source all the raw powder from China and then lyopholize it here in the U.S

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                      @Superpep Not sure whats wrong. They actually are owned by the company supplying the raws so they source from themselves and then they complete the manufacturing process by freeze drying and batch control, which occurs here on US soil. So once again, not sure what was wrong. The actual point was they have control over batches, so the COA's are meaningful as they relate to an actual batch with cap colors and crimps which THEY CONTROL without relying on a factory in China. Hope that cleared that up for ya

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