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Mixing Khavinson bioregulators.

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    ogsteve
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    Been kinda wanting to stack a few choice of these like Vilon, vesugen, Epitalon and Pinealon. I’d love if I could reliably mix them into one cartridge for daily shots.

    Has anyone tried or seen these being mixed for injection? I’m not talking about mixing right prior to injections. I want to keep them for a week or two.

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      Been kinda wanting to stack a few choice of these like Vilon, vesugen, Epitalon and Pinealon. I’d love if I could reliably mix them into one cartridge for daily shots.

      Has anyone tried or seen these being mixed for injection? I’m not talking about mixing right prior to injections. I want to keep them for a week or two.

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      @ogsteve Ah the Vladimir Khavinson’s immortality stack. Like many peptides it is not advised to mix them into one vial and store. You may be able to pull one or two into one pin to subQ. Since these peptides have a slow onset I would take them separately. I subQed 10mg of Epithalon, 1mg every other day. At the time I was running two other stacks. I can't say if it worked but I ran it just case.

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        I’ve not heard of the first two, but aren’t you supposed to take Pinealon in the morning and Epitalon before bed?

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          I’ve not heard of the first two, but aren’t you supposed to take Pinealon in the morning and Epitalon before bed?

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          @jackiee I took epithalon in the late evening while I was fasted 2 hours before sleep.

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            vpeptides
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            You can mix them in safely, they coexist successfully in your body already. I would research them separately to see how each one affects you individually, but as you figured it, you may mix them. Some even are better together, like vesugen and pinealon.
            See how they are mixed here for example (Epitalon, Pinealon, Vesugen), or here (Epitalon, Vesugen, Vilon)

            attentiion is all you need

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            • vpeptidesV vpeptides

              You can mix them in safely, they coexist successfully in your body already. I would research them separately to see how each one affects you individually, but as you figured it, you may mix them. Some even are better together, like vesugen and pinealon.
              See how they are mixed here for example (Epitalon, Pinealon, Vesugen), or here (Epitalon, Vesugen, Vilon)

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              @vpeptides nice intranasal and oral. I'm all for one less pin. Has any one research these separately or mix subQ?

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                @vpeptides nice intranasal and oral. I'm all for one less pin. Has any one research these separately or mix subQ?

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                @EXTROPIAN subQ is a lot cheaper, more bioavailable and not affected by food intake. Oral must be taken on empty stomach (2hr+ before, 30m+ after), intranasal may have some issues, like not over 0.6mg epitalon at a time, etc. But, yeah, I researched and they are effective either way. There are some not available subq, like bonomarlot/bonocore, which is a must in my opinion. Also, go and find natural extracts subq, but the capsules are available.

                attentiion is all you need

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                  @EXTROPIAN subQ is a lot cheaper, more bioavailable and not affected by food intake. Oral must be taken on empty stomach (2hr+ before, 30m+ after), intranasal may have some issues, like not over 0.6mg epitalon at a time, etc. But, yeah, I researched and they are effective either way. There are some not available subq, like bonomarlot/bonocore, which is a must in my opinion. Also, go and find natural extracts subq, but the capsules are available.

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                  @vpeptides What did you research? How long was the onset of action and the efficacy of these peptides? These and other bioregulaors have caught my attention lately.

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                    I've been mixing misc bioregulators together into a 3ml pen cartridge for my research. For example cardioben, vesugen, livagen. Another mix I"ve been running is pinealon, cortexen and Epitalon. I couldn't tell any difference from isolated research of these bioregulators. I do it for convenience and less pinning overall. But I am open to listening to any argument against mixing.

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                    • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

                      @vpeptides What did you research? How long was the onset of action and the efficacy of these peptides? These and other bioregulaors have caught my attention lately.

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                      @EXTROPIAN by the research I meant I used oral and nasal bioregulators and observed the similar effect as I would observe with injected ones, meaning they are bioavailable through these routes.

                      attentiion is all you need

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                        I've been mixing misc bioregulators together into a 3ml pen cartridge for my research. For example cardioben, vesugen, livagen. Another mix I"ve been running is pinealon, cortexen and Epitalon. I couldn't tell any difference from isolated research of these bioregulators. I do it for convenience and less pinning overall. But I am open to listening to any argument against mixing.

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                        @jt2oux in the natural organ extracts, like thymus, brain or cortex, kidney, etc. the researches detected a variety of the mentioned peptides. They are there together naturally, so it is not likely that they somehow are going to damage or diminish each other. The studies have shown the extracts sometimes have additional positive effects comparing to the singled-out "main" peptide from the extracts, so at least there is a hope some of them work better together. It all needs to be studied a lot more.

                        attentiion is all you need

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                          @jt2oux in the natural organ extracts, like thymus, brain or cortex, kidney, etc. the researches detected a variety of the mentioned peptides. They are there together naturally, so it is not likely that they somehow are going to damage or diminish each other. The studies have shown the extracts sometimes have additional positive effects comparing to the singled-out "main" peptide from the extracts, so at least there is a hope some of them work better together. It all needs to be studied a lot more.

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                          @vpeptides this is where I’m kinda at. Some of the Russian complexes have multiples of these in them when they were evaluated by the peptide science Brandon.

                          I’m really just trying to reduce pins as I’m running out of un-bruised parts.

                          I did want to get into Vilon and vesugen for joint and system healing next. My plan is to get my mitichondrial and insulin systems working properly as well as the healing systems then later when I try stuff I’m more likely to achieve success.

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                            @vpeptides this is where I’m kinda at. Some of the Russian complexes have multiples of these in them when they were evaluated by the peptide science Brandon.

                            I’m really just trying to reduce pins as I’m running out of un-bruised parts.

                            I did want to get into Vilon and vesugen for joint and system healing next. My plan is to get my mitichondrial and insulin systems working properly as well as the healing systems then later when I try stuff I’m more likely to achieve success.

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                            @ogsteve foundation first agree. I have the same issue with so much pinning. Anything for one less pin. Keep us posted on the journey.

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