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  • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

    @Stevepep Well it is a shift and its about controlling it for sure. But yes they are taking a loss right now because it doesn't fit the Rockafeller Medical business model. Control it before it goes mainstream. Maybe that is why they taking their time approving them. They need their system in place and it isnt going to be cheap.

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    @EXTROPIAN The issue is that there is nothing proprietary; any factory with the equipment can make any of these peptides. It's just Amino acids sequenced in a chain bound to salt. It couldn't be simpler to make. There is no secret sauce, so you can't stop it. That's the reason for the publicity stunt: they know they can't control the manufacturing of it, so they are arguing they have IP, which is a tough argument, and the Attorneys have simply instructed the vendors to change the name. The testing services are now being pushed to call the substance those names instead of Retatrutide, which is copyrighted. Next up, someone will add CJC1295 or something else to it.

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      Here is a decent chat.
      https://youtu.be/K3N5zP344SQ?is=cNNfYomeVWNw053B

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      • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

        Here is a decent chat.
        https://youtu.be/K3N5zP344SQ?is=cNNfYomeVWNw053B

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        @EXTROPIAN Did these kids graduate from high school yet, lol. I did have it on in the background and the stuff on UB251 coming out soon was interesting. That may crush Reta and the drug companies have no rights in Asia. Also, the stuff on the free trade zones that's already happening: no taxes and super easy imports.

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          @EXTROPIAN Did these kids graduate from high school yet, lol. I did have it on in the background and the stuff on UB251 coming out soon was interesting. That may crush Reta and the drug companies have no rights in Asia. Also, the stuff on the free trade zones that's already happening: no taxes and super easy imports.

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          @Stevepep I'm 55 and find them very informative.

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          • EXTROPIANE EXTROPIAN

            @Stevepep I'm 55 and find them very informative.

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            @EXTROPIAN I thought it was good as well. You watch a lot of youtube lol. Keep them coming

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              I just play them in the background like all my music, audiobooks.....

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                @EXTROPIAN The issue is that there is nothing proprietary; any factory with the equipment can make any of these peptides. It's just Amino acids sequenced in a chain bound to salt. It couldn't be simpler to make. There is no secret sauce, so you can't stop it. That's the reason for the publicity stunt: they know they can't control the manufacturing of it, so they are arguing they have IP, which is a tough argument, and the Attorneys have simply instructed the vendors to change the name. The testing services are now being pushed to call the substance those names instead of Retatrutide, which is copyrighted. Next up, someone will add CJC1295 or something else to it.

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                Neil McCauley
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                @Stevepep said:

                @EXTROPIAN The issue is that there is nothing proprietary; any factory with the equipment can make any of these peptides. It's just Amino acids sequenced in a chain bound to salt. It couldn't be simpler to make. There is no secret sauce, so you can't stop it.

                Retatrutide is on hard mode compared to Tirzepatide and many other common peptides. Every step of the way Reta has a much more difficult process in the manufacturing complexity and the synthesis process is just on a whole different level than any other GLP.

                Same can be said comparing Tesamorelin to other GHRH peptides.

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                  This guy is a fear mongering shit bag, just trying to get people into his skool through fear tactics and FOMO. I read the "FDA New Alert". It didn't mention Reta at all! It only added Orforgilipron (Foundayo oral GLPs drug) to the Green list. What an ass....

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                  • S Stevepep

                    @EXTROPIAN Did these kids graduate from high school yet, lol. I did have it on in the background and the stuff on UB251 coming out soon was interesting. That may crush Reta and the drug companies have no rights in Asia. Also, the stuff on the free trade zones that's already happening: no taxes and super easy imports.

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                    @Stevepep Derek from this video runs another peptide pricing index page I use to shop sales and look at reviews.

                    Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                    • NewenoughN Newenough

                      This guy is a fear mongering shit bag, just trying to get people into his skool through fear tactics and FOMO. I read the "FDA New Alert". It didn't mention Reta at all! It only added Orforgilipron (Foundayo oral GLPs drug) to the Green list. What an ass....

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                      @Newenough said:

                      This guy is a fear mongering shit bag, just trying to get people into his skool

                      Kindaa yes. Ironically, while he keeps commenting all this, he maintains silence on stateside US labs that have done sketchy things that Peptide Critic discussed at length for awareness without any bias about forum vendors using them.

                      That Skool is more like hero worship forum. He's treated as God and whatever shit he posts, newbs are bowing in front of him like he won a Nobel. He also removes posts critical of him and his favorite vendors.

                      I was on that Skool, but stopped going there after I found this forum, which is a lot more mature audience and open discussion.

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                        @pep_researcher which forum. I have to see it.

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                        • NewenoughN Newenough

                          @pep_researcher which forum. I have to see it.

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                          @Newenough it's under subscription https://www.skool.com/verified-research-society-9525/about

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                            @pep_researcher which forum. I have to see it.

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                            @Newenough

                            @mmp No that's not the one I was referring to. This is different. I was referring to Derek's forum. Isn't that the one referenced in the YouTube video?

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                              @mmp No that's not the one I was referring to. This is different. I was referring to Derek's forum. Isn't that the one referenced in the YouTube video?

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                              @pep_researcher He has a skool too, I think it costs money. I haven't joined it. He may link it on his website

                              Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                                @Newenough

                                @mmp No that's not the one I was referring to. This is different. I was referring to Derek's forum. Isn't that the one referenced in the YouTube video?

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                                @pep_researcher this one? https://www.skool.com/research-radar/about

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                                  @pep_researcher this one? https://www.skool.com/research-radar/about

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                                  @mmp said:

                                  @pep_researcher this one? https://www.skool.com/research-radar/about

                                  Yup.

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                                    @Stevepep said:

                                    @EXTROPIAN The issue is that there is nothing proprietary; any factory with the equipment can make any of these peptides. It's just Amino acids sequenced in a chain bound to salt. It couldn't be simpler to make. There is no secret sauce, so you can't stop it.

                                    Retatrutide is on hard mode compared to Tirzepatide and many other common peptides. Every step of the way Reta has a much more difficult process in the manufacturing complexity and the synthesis process is just on a whole different level than any other GLP.

                                    Same can be said comparing Tesamorelin to other GHRH peptides.

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                                    @Neil-McCauley The chain is longer, but it's not that difficult. I was in a similar business. There is nothing special about this process. The point is there is no secret sauce; it can be replicated by any factory with the right equipment and facilities. In fact, it has been replicated without even the right facilities. Its why its so cheap

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                                    • BeeKindB BeeKind

                                      @Stevepep Derek from this video runs another peptide pricing index page I use to shop sales and look at reviews.

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                                      @BeeKind All these YouTube sleuths have some angle.

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                                        I am in the wrong business! Unfortunately I am not a good b.s.er. I believe they all mean well. Just capitalizing on a good thing. There are jewels in all there info. Most don't like Dr Trevor Backmeyer but doesn't mean he is wrong on alot of info he shares.

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                                          lol I have enough for a few years Lol

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