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  • J jennn

    @Eleanor I think NAD would be the safest to use with saline. I mean, they give it to people in bags of saline all the time as an IV in wellness clinics.

    It’s the initial reconstitution that I question. Once in solution, I’m sure it’s fine to dilute up to volume with saline. But there’s a reason most lyophilized compounds are reconstituted in water. They likely need a lower pH than saline to get into solution initially.

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    Stevepep
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    @jennn Jenn Hospira NACL BAC is the very same PH as Hospira BAC.

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      @jennn Jenn Hospira NACL BAC is the very same PH as Hospira BAC.

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      @Stevepep said:

      @jennn Jenn Hospira NACL BAC is the very same PH as Hospira BAC.

      Not too sure about that but I don't need to use it on my NAD+ buffered, nor do I see any instructions to do so on any protocol. In fact, there are a couple I've seen that say not to use it if NAD is already buffered. I'm no expert but I don't need it, I use it for other ones that leave a welt/sting.

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        @Commander Yours is buffered the one I got Grey is not.

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        Commander
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        @Stevepep said:

        @Commander Yours is buffered the one I got Grey is not.

        Well I was told by “Emma” it was buffered, but it does sting a bit. Can’t trust the vendors to tell the truth anyway..

        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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          @Stevepep said:

          @Commander Yours is buffered the one I got Grey is not.

          Well I was told by “Emma” it was buffered, but it does sting a bit. Can’t trust the vendors to tell the truth anyway..

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          @Commander Crap maybe mine is too. I used the NACL BAC and it s really nice no reaction at all not even a little itching. The NAD buffered from Nexaph gave me no issues so I didn’t use it on that. The Emma stuff different story it works nice with NACL without it nice red mark.

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            I want to know i it works with Cartalax. As one poster described it as 'spicy'. No kidding! Going to read up on it and probably burn a 10mg with it. No other way to know.

            @stevepep @commander For the record, the buffered stings me slightly using regular BAC if I inject too fast but easily tolerable; no where near the sting that unbuff has.

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              @Commander Crap maybe mine is too. I used the NACL BAC and it s really nice no reaction at all not even a little itching. The NAD buffered from Nexaph gave me no issues so I didn’t use it on that. The Emma stuff different story it works nice with NACL without it nice red mark.

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              @Stevepep said:

              @Commander Crap maybe mine is too. I used the NACL BAC and it s really nice no reaction at all not even a little itching. The NAD buffered from Nexaph gave me no issues so I didn’t use it on that. The Emma stuff different story it works nice with NACL without it nice red mark.

              Perfect, I forgot you got it from Emma too… as soon as my Nacl comes in I will be trying it with the Nad+ from Emma too

              Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                So mine came in today. I am going to try it for: Mots-C, SS-31, NAD
                Keep My Regular Hospira Bac for:
                KLOW
                Tesa/IPA
                Reta

                If I read correctly, those you need regular BAC for.. but who knows, this stuff confuses me 🤣

                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                  So mine came in today. I am going to try it for: Mots-C, SS-31, NAD
                  Keep My Regular Hospira Bac for:
                  KLOW
                  Tesa/IPA
                  Reta

                  If I read correctly, those you need regular BAC for.. but who knows, this stuff confuses me 🤣

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                  @Commander Yes give it a shot just on SS31, NAD and MOTSC

                  Even if the NAD is buffered.

                  Buffered NAD+ is the situation where NaCl BAC is the preferred general choice: use a pharmaceutical-grade bacteriostatic 0.9% sodium-chloride diluent.

                  The buffer addresses NAD+’s acidity, which is usually the main cause of sting. NaCl BAC can help with the local osmotic/dispersion component, so it may reduce welting or irritation, but it is not a substitute for a properly buffered NAD+ formulation.

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                    @Commander Yes give it a shot just on SS31, NAD and MOTSC

                    Even if the NAD is buffered.

                    Buffered NAD+ is the situation where NaCl BAC is the preferred general choice: use a pharmaceutical-grade bacteriostatic 0.9% sodium-chloride diluent.

                    The buffer addresses NAD+’s acidity, which is usually the main cause of sting. NaCl BAC can help with the local osmotic/dispersion component, so it may reduce welting or irritation, but it is not a substitute for a properly buffered NAD+ formulation.

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                    @Stevepep said:

                    @Commander Yes give it a shot just on SS31, NAD and MOTSC

                    Even if the NAD is buffered.

                    Buffered NAD+ is the situation where NaCl BAC is the preferred general choice: use a pharmaceutical-grade bacteriostatic 0.9% sodium-chloride diluent.

                    The buffer addresses NAD+’s acidity, which is usually the main cause of sting. NaCl BAC can help with the local osmotic/dispersion component, so it may reduce welting or irritation, but it is not a substitute for a properly buffered NAD+ formulation.

                    We got the NAD from the same place at the same time, if it is working for you it should work for me!!

                    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                      @Stevepep said:

                      @Commander Yes give it a shot just on SS31, NAD and MOTSC

                      Even if the NAD is buffered.

                      Buffered NAD+ is the situation where NaCl BAC is the preferred general choice: use a pharmaceutical-grade bacteriostatic 0.9% sodium-chloride diluent.

                      The buffer addresses NAD+’s acidity, which is usually the main cause of sting. NaCl BAC can help with the local osmotic/dispersion component, so it may reduce welting or irritation, but it is not a substitute for a properly buffered NAD+ formulation.

                      We got the NAD from the same place at the same time, if it is working for you it should work for me!!

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                      @Commander exactly!!! It’s good too lol

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                        I'm going to have to burn a 500 vial of my buffered to see if this works. Ya never know... Wonder if it works on Tirz, Cagri, Survo, TA1, and esp. Cartalax?

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                          Question - would adding PBS (Phosphate Buffered Saline) to BAC work? I see that recommended for ARA-290 (75-80% PBS/20-25% BAC) and was curious about whether is might also make sense in the context of this discussion?

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                            I'm going to have to burn a 500 vial of my buffered to see if this works. Ya never know... Wonder if it works on Tirz, Cagri, Survo, TA1, and esp. Cartalax?

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                            @Eleanor said:

                            I'm going to have to burn a 500 vial of my buffered to see if this works. Ya never know... Wonder if it works on Tirz, Cagri, Survo, TA1, and esp. Cartalax?

                            I am going to have to burn 1 of my 300 vials of NAD 1000mg tomorrow testing this too!!

                            Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                              @Eleanor said:

                              I'm going to have to burn a 500 vial of my buffered to see if this works. Ya never know... Wonder if it works on Tirz, Cagri, Survo, TA1, and esp. Cartalax?

                              I am going to have to burn 1 of my 300 vials of NAD 1000mg tomorrow testing this too!!

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                              @Commander Must be nice, El Capitan! LOL! Please let us know how it goes. Truly, I mean that, do let us know. It'll be next week before I can do anything with regard to reconn. Too much to do on this end...

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                                I reconed Mots-C, SS-31 and My NAD+ (Supposedly Buffered) with this and it didn't have a problem. I took all three shots already, the NAD didn't sting as much. I will let you know if I have bumps tomorrow. Normally it takes weeks for these hard bumps to go away with regular BAC, so we will see...

                                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                  So far so good, the bumps from the shots are a lot smaller than with the regular back

                                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                    So far so good, the bumps from the shots are a lot smaller than with the regular back

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                                    @Commander I told you it was a massive difference for me glad it’s working out so far

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                                      I took my shots this morning again, and it is definitely better than it was with the normal BAC. Hopefully, this isn't hurting the peptide itself.

                                      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                        I took my shots this morning again, and it is definitely better than it was with the normal BAC. Hopefully, this isn't hurting the peptide itself.

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                                        @Commander, well, I feel great. I am on week two, and it's so much better

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                                          @Commander, well, I feel great. I am on week two, and it's so much better

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                                          @Stevepep
                                          So here's a question. Do you think this would work for Tesa/IPA blend too?

                                          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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