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  • N NobleONe

    At around the 24 minute mark, Jeff and Rory both say that of all peps, they're most cautious about (not exact words tbh) MOTS and CJC.

    I've done my research, and now will go MUCH deeper, but was curious on reasons as to why?

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    @NobleONe oh, they told why. Chances of anaphylactic shock.

    attentiion is all you need

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    • vpepsV vpeps

      @NobleONe oh, they told why. Chances of anaphylactic shock.

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      @vpeptides @nobleone Yeah that was a brand new info for me. Currently researching MOTS-C, the second time, and also low 2.5 3x only. No plan to bump up but once done I think I'm not going to touch it again.

      Theoretical benefits on one side, but I'm not interested in any adverse research outcomes.

      Also MOTS-C and SS-31 have been two that felt like waste of resources, time, and money, no noticeable research results.

      Others compounds showed measurable research outcomes.

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        @pep_researcher I keep a bottle of liquid benadryl right there when I inject MOTS-C - not a perfect hedge - but also not nothing. (and note, I've never had any issues with MOTS-C and dose 5mg 3x a week - I'm just cautious)

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          Looks like they talk about MOTS and CJC again at 1:11:00.

          The liquid benadryl idea is a good/cheap hedge too @peptideed I think ill steal that from you

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          • RandyR Randy

            https://x.com/i/spaces/1MKgNbNXWvXxL?s=20

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            @Randy Excellent Jeff!!

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              The two biggest things for me were Crush being sold, and it sounded like they would stock more inventory with deeper pockets. Also, ILS making a QC hire is good news with the mess they have created.

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              • RandyR Randy

                https://x.com/i/spaces/1MKgNbNXWvXxL?s=20

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                @Randy Great session!

                P.S, I'll take you up on the cheap chinese drone trade from Canada for a kit anytime 😸

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                  @Randy Great session!

                  P.S, I'll take you up on the cheap chinese drone trade from Canada for a kit anytime 😸

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                  @bfuller Yussss! Its on! Though the drones i buy arent normally cheap.

                  "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                  • S Stevepep

                    The two biggest things for me were Crush being sold, and it sounded like they would stock more inventory with deeper pockets. Also, ILS making a QC hire is good news with the mess they have created.

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                    @Stevepep Agreed. It was also nice of Randy to give props to @commander for all the work and money he’s been putting into his own testing. 👏

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                      I keep reading about this interview, but (I am a techno Peasant) how do you watch or listen to it?

                      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                      • C Commander

                        I keep reading about this interview, but (I am a techno Peasant) how do you watch or listen to it?

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                        @Commander You have to be on X. Download the app (or via web), and create an account. I've held off on rejoining for years until this. Had a Twitter account maybe around 20 years ago.

                        https://x.com/i/spaces/1MKgNbNXWvXxL?s=20

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                          Funny after avoiding Twitter/X for all these years I bit the bullet for peptide talk.

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                            @Commander You have to be on X. Download the app (or via web), and create an account. I've held off on rejoining for years until this. Had a Twitter account maybe around 20 years ago.

                            https://x.com/i/spaces/1MKgNbNXWvXxL?s=20

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                            @Nuncles said:

                            @Commander You have to be on X. Download the app (or via web), and create an account. I've held off on rejoining for years until this. Had a Twitter account maybe around 20 years ago.

                            https://x.com/i/spaces/1MKgNbNXWvXxL?s=20

                            😩😩😩 I don’t do any social media

                            Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                              @Nuncles said:

                              @Commander You have to be on X. Download the app (or via web), and create an account. I've held off on rejoining for years until this. Had a Twitter account maybe around 20 years ago.

                              https://x.com/i/spaces/1MKgNbNXWvXxL?s=20

                              😩😩😩 I don’t do any social media

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                              @Commander Smart man.

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                                @Nuncles said:

                                @Commander You have to be on X. Download the app (or via web), and create an account. I've held off on rejoining for years until this. Had a Twitter account maybe around 20 years ago.

                                https://x.com/i/spaces/1MKgNbNXWvXxL?s=20

                                😩😩😩 I don’t do any social media

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                                @Commander You can just have accounts on all but not do any activities or post. I have such accounts on all except TikTok.

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                                  @randy I want to hear more John over at AFI and the failed testing. Did I hear that right, 50% failed test over a week?

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                                    @randy I want to hear more John over at AFI and the failed testing. Did I hear that right, 50% failed test over a week?

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                                    @Newenough yeah. Resellers from china have become increasingly unreliable/scammy.

                                    He had 30 other results that were "no peptide" around the same time he tested the bodega stash.

                                    The vendors in question dump all the failed product in the trash.

                                    No pep tests coming to a group buy near you 😉

                                    "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                      @randy incredible. Do you feel this is across the board or primarily mid to smaller vendors that would be problomatic? Uther, QSC, ERP, large vendors included you think? Thanks.

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                                        I noticed somewhere in the podcast @randy Jeff saying he lives in the SF Bay Area? Dude we might be neighbors. 😯

                                        Did you attend Peptide Partners rave party in Dec 2025 that happened in SF?

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                                        • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                                          @vpeptides @nobleone Yeah that was a brand new info for me. Currently researching MOTS-C, the second time, and also low 2.5 3x only. No plan to bump up but once done I think I'm not going to touch it again.

                                          Theoretical benefits on one side, but I'm not interested in any adverse research outcomes.

                                          Also MOTS-C and SS-31 have been two that felt like waste of resources, time, and money, no noticeable research results.

                                          Others compounds showed measurable research outcomes.

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                                          @pep_researcher said:

                                          "...and SS-31 have been two that felt like waste..."

                                          Wow, this one may have been a game changer for me! Maybe NAD+ (oral) needed to build up and that did the trick, but since I ran the SS-31, I don't spend half my days in bed. I can't wait to run it again even though I have sustained the energy after that four week run.
                                          The only success stories I have seen for SS-31 are for chronic illness. I am hoping that my next run will stop my tracker from applauding me every time I move for more than 30 minutes at a time.

                                          I am currently running CJC/IPA with no allergic response. If you listen again to the emergency room incident, the woman they were talking about had red flag symptoms from the CJC injections before the full anaphylactic shock.

                                          A good rule of thumb for even mild side effects is to stop and reevaluate, unless it is a known temporary symptom.

                                          Reta was the most problematic peptide for me, but not for most researchers. Soooo many variables; none of the peptides fit in a box.

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