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    Yes my father goes down to Mexico to get his B12 shot twice a year. Might get him some to subQ at home.

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      Yes my father goes down to Mexico to get his B12 shot twice a year. Might get him some to subQ at home.

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      @EXTROPIAN Well, if you decide to do that for your father, you should check with me first. I got such a great deal that I went a little overboard in ordering. Probably have way too much! Happy to share.

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        Does anyone know what the shelf-life is, or how to properly store these vials?

        I just received a 10 pack order from Nexaph of "Lipo-C with B12" in amber vials that contain 10mL of liquid each.

        Each vial contains:
        Methylcobalamin 0.96 mg/ml
        Hydroxocobalamin 0.51 mg/ml
        L-Carnitine 62.12mg/ml
        L-Arginine 15.32 mg/ml

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        The Janoshik COA only lists the 4 ingredients above (methyl, Hydroxo, L-carn, and L-argin) but the sales page lists more ingredients than the COA. Is it normal for the NEXAPH sales page to say that the Lipo-C with B12 contains per mL:

        B5 (Dexpanthenol) 25mg
        B6 (Pyridoxine) 25mg
        B12 (Methyl cobalamin) 1mg
        L-Arginine 20mg
        L-Carnitine 50mg
        L-Methionine 25mg
        L-Inositol 50mg
        Choline Chloride 50mg
        Lidocaine 1%
        Benzyl Alcohol (as preservative) 1%
        Sterile water

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        • M mussels4muscles

          The Janoshik COA only lists the 4 ingredients above (methyl, Hydroxo, L-carn, and L-argin) but the sales page lists more ingredients than the COA. Is it normal for the NEXAPH sales page to say that the Lipo-C with B12 contains per mL:

          B5 (Dexpanthenol) 25mg
          B6 (Pyridoxine) 25mg
          B12 (Methyl cobalamin) 1mg
          L-Arginine 20mg
          L-Carnitine 50mg
          L-Methionine 25mg
          L-Inositol 50mg
          Choline Chloride 50mg
          Lidocaine 1%
          Benzyl Alcohol (as preservative) 1%
          Sterile water

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          @ed1 I can only speak for the powders and yes, it will give the mgs. contained of each. I did notice that they only listed the top 4 or 5. Mixes make me nervous and already reconstituted ones especially.

          Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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            @ed1 I can only speak for the powders and yes, it will give the mgs. contained of each. I did notice that they only listed the top 4 or 5. Mixes make me nervous and already reconstituted ones especially.

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            @Eleanor Sorry, I worded the question incorrectly. I meant to ask if it was normal that the sales page on NEXAPH listed all of those ingredients, yet the COA from Janoshik only listed 4 ingredients? I'm wondering if the other ingredients are actually in the product I just bought. Seems like a mismatch of info? or maybe that is standard, and I just need to trust that all of the ingredients are there.
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              @Eleanor Sorry, I worded the question incorrectly. I meant to ask if it was normal that the sales page on NEXAPH listed all of those ingredients, yet the COA from Janoshik only listed 4 ingredients? I'm wondering if the other ingredients are actually in the product I just bought. Seems like a mismatch of info? or maybe that is standard, and I just need to trust that all of the ingredients are there.
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              @ed1 I don't know.

              Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                The Janoshik COA only lists the 4 ingredients above (methyl, Hydroxo, L-carn, and L-argin) but the sales page lists more ingredients than the COA. Is it normal for the NEXAPH sales page to say that the Lipo-C with B12 contains per mL:

                B5 (Dexpanthenol) 25mg
                B6 (Pyridoxine) 25mg
                B12 (Methyl cobalamin) 1mg
                L-Arginine 20mg
                L-Carnitine 50mg
                L-Methionine 25mg
                L-Inositol 50mg
                Choline Chloride 50mg
                Lidocaine 1%
                Benzyl Alcohol (as preservative) 1%
                Sterile water

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                @ed1 that makes it a vitamins B complex.

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                  @EXTROPIAN Well, if you decide to do that for your father, you should check with me first. I got such a great deal that I went a little overboard in ordering. Probably have way too much! Happy to share.

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                  @ed1 I appreciate it sir. Before i give my father it goes through me, literally. I will never impose, I would zelle so you can break even. I seen it mentioned on my "SUPER HUMAN STACK" someone gave me. It is of amino acid complex. Dosages are low compare to my oral dosages but it's subq maikig it more bioavailable. I see the same to what you have. I invest on mytholated B complex. At the moment I am going through "pinning fatigue" as well. Not like I need it really. Just me pushing the next but it's pushing back. lol

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                    @ed1 You need to find out the shelf/fridge life of this mix. I can't help but wonder since it's reconstituted.

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                      @ed1 educate me on what this peptide/amino is good for and what you are stacking with if anything? Also is this subq or intramuscular?

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                        I’ve never got mine from Nexaph, but I usually keep mine in a cool, dark place. But once I pop the cap off and use it for the first time, I always refrigerate it once it’s opened. And I try to use it up in at least 30 days. Since it’s a multi use vial, you don’t want to use it past that due to greater risk of bacteria contamination.

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                          @ed1 educate me on what this peptide/amino is good for and what you are stacking with if anything? Also is this subq or intramuscular?

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                          @denti i would also love to hear some reviews on this. Anyone using it? Protocol?

                          “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                          It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share that defines you.”

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                            In theory this can be added to any mitochondrial stack. mitochondria rely heavily on the B-vitamin complex to function and produce cellular energy. It is one extra pin but may reduce motsc, ss31, nad and 5amino 1mq dosages.

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                              @ed1 I appreciate it sir. Before i give my father it goes through me, literally. I will never impose, I would zelle so you can break even. I seen it mentioned on my "SUPER HUMAN STACK" someone gave me. It is of amino acid complex. Dosages are low compare to my oral dosages but it's subq maikig it more bioavailable. I see the same to what you have. I invest on mytholated B complex. At the moment I am going through "pinning fatigue" as well. Not like I need it really. Just me pushing the next but it's pushing back. lol

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                              @EXTROPIAN Well, I bought so many because it was a great deal. I couldn't resist! They just arrived and I am going to start my first vial tomorrow morning.
                              The 10mL vials (with Janoshik COA.s) were $18 each.

                              Here are some notes I took when researching how to use the Lipo-C w/B12:
                              Standard dosage protocol for Lipo-C with B12 is 0.5–1.0 mL administered once or twice weekly
                              New User: start with 0.5 mg 1x/wk – to assess tolerance
                              Active weight loss: 1mL x 2/wk
                              Maintenance: 1 mL weekly
                              Daily: 0.25–0.5 mL Daily for Steady energy/carnitine levels

                              Lipo-C contents per mL:
                              B5 (Dexpanthenol) 25mg
                              B6 (Pyridoxine) 25mg
                              B12 (Methyl cobalamin) 1mg
                              L-Arginine 20mg
                              L-Carnitine 50mg
                              L-Methionine 25mg
                              L-Inositol 50mg
                              Choline Chloride 50mg
                              Lidocaine 1%
                              Benzyl Alcohol (as preservative) 1%
                              Sterile water

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                                @ed1 educate me on what this peptide/amino is good for and what you are stacking with if anything? Also is this subq or intramuscular?

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                                @denti I bought it because it is reported to target stubborn fat and boosts energy. I tend to be slightly b12 deficient and I can always use more energy for my workouts. All of the ingredients are very brain supportive. So, weight loss and energy, and brain and mood support.

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                                  @denti I bought it because it is reported to target stubborn fat and boosts energy. I tend to be slightly b12 deficient and I can always use more energy for my workouts. All of the ingredients are very brain supportive. So, weight loss and energy, and brain and mood support.

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                                  Stacking it with Reta, and all the other fun stuff...KLOW, SS-31, etc. (too many to list on the rotation 😁

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                                    @EXTROPIAN Well, I bought so many because it was a great deal. I couldn't resist! They just arrived and I am going to start my first vial tomorrow morning.
                                    The 10mL vials (with Janoshik COA.s) were $18 each.

                                    Here are some notes I took when researching how to use the Lipo-C w/B12:
                                    Standard dosage protocol for Lipo-C with B12 is 0.5–1.0 mL administered once or twice weekly
                                    New User: start with 0.5 mg 1x/wk – to assess tolerance
                                    Active weight loss: 1mL x 2/wk
                                    Maintenance: 1 mL weekly
                                    Daily: 0.25–0.5 mL Daily for Steady energy/carnitine levels

                                    Lipo-C contents per mL:
                                    B5 (Dexpanthenol) 25mg
                                    B6 (Pyridoxine) 25mg
                                    B12 (Methyl cobalamin) 1mg
                                    L-Arginine 20mg
                                    L-Carnitine 50mg
                                    L-Methionine 25mg
                                    L-Inositol 50mg
                                    Choline Chloride 50mg
                                    Lidocaine 1%
                                    Benzyl Alcohol (as preservative) 1%
                                    Sterile water

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                                    @ed1 You know Ed, aminos acids and vitamins do alot. Never truly consider subQ until I been seeing them out now. And the fact the my father keepsgoing to Mexico to get B12 intramuscular for years now. He doesnt look that bad though. The other day he told me he had a vial of B12, could have been complex, and was wondering if he can do it subq. I digress. If these subq aminos and vitamins are what they are then what are the most effective dose? For sure alot lower than oral. They use oral chelation, methylate vit and minerals just to make them more bioavailable ($). Subq=bipass. One word "synergy". The only questionable on the list is "lidocaine 1%" .

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                                      @ed1 You know Ed, aminos acids and vitamins do alot. Never truly consider subQ until I been seeing them out now. And the fact the my father keepsgoing to Mexico to get B12 intramuscular for years now. He doesnt look that bad though. The other day he told me he had a vial of B12, could have been complex, and was wondering if he can do it subq. I digress. If these subq aminos and vitamins are what they are then what are the most effective dose? For sure alot lower than oral. They use oral chelation, methylate vit and minerals just to make them more bioavailable ($). Subq=bipass. One word "synergy". The only questionable on the list is "lidocaine 1%" .

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                                      @EXTROPIAN This would probably be quite different from what your father is taking. I use to get B12 shots from Mexico as well. Those are usually just plain B12. Nothing fancy.

                                      Let me know if you want any vials, I can send them to you so you can try them.

                                      As far as dosage, I'm just going to follow the dosage suggestion that I find onine. Since I would like to lose some weight I'll be doing the Active Weight Loss dose after starting off slow to asses for tolerance.

                                      Standard dosage protocol for Lipo-C with B12 is 0.5–1.0 mL administered once or twice weekly
                                      New User: start with 0.5 mg 1x/wk – to assess tolerance
                                      Active weight loss: 1mL x 2/wk
                                      Maintenance: 1 mL weekly
                                      Daily: 0.25–0.5 mL Daily for Steady energy/carnitine levels

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                                        @ed1 subq or intramuscular?

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                                          Noted. I jsut have to finish my SUPER HUMAN STACK of aminos. I havent pin in 4 days and I have 5 reconstituted peptides. lol I need a break.

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