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  • J JtCjEfF

    @Falc Meaning HCG makes E2 worse?

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    @JTCJeff it can, doesn't in me but my doctor warned me that I needed to keep an eye on it when I started.

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      One of the selling points to me was that HCG could increase your testosterone without shutting down your nads. Obviously not TRT levels of boost. It seemed worth a try if it would alleviate symptoms & help with some moderate gains… especially if the bloodwork progressed in the right direction. It was only $66 for a kit on the Tegrity GB.

      I might just have to bite the TRT bullet one day… it just seems like a big commitment is all.

      Remember: there are no peptides that can fill the emptiness inside your cold heart.

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      • D denti

        @Jake_PepTron said:

        Was looking into this or enclomaphine as an alternative to Test for low-T. Been reading more about it; watchin videos & lookin over bloodwork… not sure if anyone has any experience with HCG as a monotherapy.

        I started enclomiphene last week. 12.5mg 3x a week and I’m feeling most of the side effects like hot flashes, headaches, and irritability. I think it’s supposed to wear off in a couple weeks. I’m going to stay on this cycle for 12 weeks then get my T levels tested again

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        @denti said:

        @Jake_PepTron said:

        Was looking into this or enclomaphine as an alternative to Test for low-T. Been reading more about it; watchin videos & lookin over bloodwork… not sure if anyone has any experience with HCG as a monotherapy.

        I started enclomiphene last week. 12.5mg 3x a week and I’m feeling most of the side effects like hot flashes, headaches, and irritability. I think it’s supposed to wear off in a couple weeks. I’m going to stay on this cycle for 12 weeks then get my T levels tested again

        Sourcing this through doc or elsewhere? Most of what I've seen on the gray market is not actual Enclo but clomid...which I'm not interested in.

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        • FalcF Falc

          @EXTROPIAN I use 250iu HCG EOD. For me it is a must with my TRT (and Proviron).

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          @Falc said:

          @EXTROPIAN I use 250iu HCG EOD. For me it is a must with my TRT (and Proviron).

          Is this going to be a long-term protocol for you (years) regarding running HCG?

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          • hunt_akH hunt_ak

            @denti said:

            @Jake_PepTron said:

            Was looking into this or enclomaphine as an alternative to Test for low-T. Been reading more about it; watchin videos & lookin over bloodwork… not sure if anyone has any experience with HCG as a monotherapy.

            I started enclomiphene last week. 12.5mg 3x a week and I’m feeling most of the side effects like hot flashes, headaches, and irritability. I think it’s supposed to wear off in a couple weeks. I’m going to stay on this cycle for 12 weeks then get my T levels tested again

            Sourcing this through doc or elsewhere? Most of what I've seen on the gray market is not actual Enclo but clomid...which I'm not interested in.

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            @hunt_ak said:

            @denti said:

            @Jake_PepTron said:

            Was looking into this or enclomaphine as an alternative to Test for low-T. Been reading more about it; watchin videos & lookin over bloodwork a… not sure if anyone has any experience with HCG as a monotherapy.

            I started enclomiphene last week. 12.5mg 3x a week and I’m feeling most of the side effects like hot flashes, headaches, and irritability. I think it’s supposed to wear off in a couple weeks. I’m going to stay on this cycle for 12 weeks then get my T levels tested again

            Sourcing this through doc or elsewhere? Most of what I've seen on the gray market is not actual Enclo but clomid...which I'm not interested in.

            Gray market. Unfortunately I bought a years supply before doing better research and finding out it may be clomid. I bought from Modified Aminos. Another user posted here where they sourced from 3 different places and sent it in for testing and all of theirs came back being just pure Enclomiphene. I wish I would have seen that before I ordered.

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            • FalcF Falc

              @EXTROPIAN I use 250iu HCG EOD. For me it is a must with my TRT (and Proviron).

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              @Falc I believe HCG can be micro dose with GLP-1s. A calorie deficit can drop testosterone levels, but the effect depends heavily on your starting body composition and how aggressive the deficit is. As it is testosterone levels are already low in males. Worse as you age. Have you noticed young men today dont have promonant adam apples in comparison to young/men back in the 50s. That was from the puberty surge. That is because of low testosterone. Well that was testosterone levels back then. The other sign is gynecomastia in men today. That's not just fat, those are breast. Low test and high estrogen. I digress. I believe its important to dail in testosterone. I am always looking into how without over doing it. Via HPG and GnRH signaling maybe be a safer route. You have to take care of your jewels.

              2M

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              • D denti

                @hunt_ak said:

                @denti said:

                @Jake_PepTron said:

                Was looking into this or enclomaphine as an alternative to Test for low-T. Been reading more about it; watchin videos & lookin over bloodwork a… not sure if anyone has any experience with HCG as a monotherapy.

                I started enclomiphene last week. 12.5mg 3x a week and I’m feeling most of the side effects like hot flashes, headaches, and irritability. I think it’s supposed to wear off in a couple weeks. I’m going to stay on this cycle for 12 weeks then get my T levels tested again

                Sourcing this through doc or elsewhere? Most of what I've seen on the gray market is not actual Enclo but clomid...which I'm not interested in.

                Gray market. Unfortunately I bought a years supply before doing better research and finding out it may be clomid. I bought from Modified Aminos. Another user posted here where they sourced from 3 different places and sent it in for testing and all of theirs came back being just pure Enclomiphene. I wish I would have seen that before I ordered.

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                @denti Point me to that post? 👀 👀 👀

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                • hunt_akH hunt_ak

                  @denti Point me to that post? 👀 👀 👀

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                  @hunt_ak said:

                  @denti Point me to that post? 👀 👀 👀

                  This was the post and you can read this thread.

                  https://community.peptidecritic.com/post/23201

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                  • Jake_PepTronJ Jake_PepTron

                    Was looking into this or enclomaphine as an alternative to Test for low-T. Been reading more about it; watchin videos & lookin over bloodwork… not sure if anyone has any experience with HCG as a monotherapy.

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                    @Jake_PepTron elco works migjt raise you 100points or so. Hcg is what keep testies active while on trt or off cycle. Get labs, try encloph, get labs few weeks month later. Tey tanga ali, test. Then decide if need trt. I was at 400s felt like craps for yrs. Been happy on trt once i dialed in

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                      @Jake_PepTron elco works migjt raise you 100points or so. Hcg is what keep testies active while on trt or off cycle. Get labs, try encloph, get labs few weeks month later. Tey tanga ali, test. Then decide if need trt. I was at 400s felt like craps for yrs. Been happy on trt once i dialed in

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                      @user_16538
                      Can be more- In roughly 9 months (labs quarterly) my total T went from 518 to 1050. Free from 48 to 138. This at a 6.25mg daily dose Enclo. The COA's posted were mine. Good sources are available. The last quarterly labs showed an increase in T from 893 to 1050 (free from 122 to 138) with the addition of boron, tongkat Ali, and zinc- with stable enclo dosing. So an additional bump from those supplements is also possible. I have vials of HCG ready but with these results I'm holding off- both shbg and E2 are normal but slightly higher than my baseline so I don't want to screw with anything right now. Just recognize that this regimen should not be counted on if more advanced manipulations (AAS, gear, etc.) are being used. It won't hold up. TRT is required for that.

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