Are We Gellin'?
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@Nuncles I get it. Every protocol I've ever seen has a 3ml recon; it just seems standard. I think they're not filtering and using vial it came in, IDK but I completely ignore them. Then again, I use a syringe not a pen.
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@Eleanor yeah that's the difference. I input the dosage with 10mL and it was 123 units I think. I don't recon anything with a dose that's over 60 units. Unless I put it in my 1 V1 then it's 80 units.
@Nuncles I don't take a full mg. yet so defer to your math/dose. I just reconned 40mg MOTS w/10ml and it's 15 units in 1ml syringe. I've had to experiment with everything from 5ml on up. I got my MOTS at S1 and it came out perfect; not to say that there might be something wrong with the batch you got. I've just found, in my experiments, the amount of BAC makes a difference, along with temp, etc... You know all that, I know.
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@eleanor The dosage absolutely makes the difference. I've been doing 3.75mg titrating up to 5mg, which would have been 125 units with 10mL bac. I'm probably going to stay around 3 or 3.5. Seems to be working, and from what I've read Mots-c is not one that necessarily works better with higher doses. I'll try to keep it around 10mg per week for now. Even at 3mg with 10mL bac it puts the dose at 75 units which is well over most pens' 60 units max.
6mL of Bac makes 3mg makes it 45 units. So I will go with your advice of more bac, just slightly modified to accommodate the dosing from pens.
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@eleanor The dosage absolutely makes the difference. I've been doing 3.75mg titrating up to 5mg, which would have been 125 units with 10mL bac. I'm probably going to stay around 3 or 3.5. Seems to be working, and from what I've read Mots-c is not one that necessarily works better with higher doses. I'll try to keep it around 10mg per week for now. Even at 3mg with 10mL bac it puts the dose at 75 units which is well over most pens' 60 units max.
6mL of Bac makes 3mg makes it 45 units. So I will go with your advice of more bac, just slightly modified to accommodate the dosing from pens.
@Nuncles Other than a bad product, the BAC is the only thing I can come up with.
I don't know how you guys do it; my tiny dose has disrupted my sleep and I take MOTS and NAD at 5am, or earlier, each day. I can skip the MOTS (use NaCl BAC, BTW), but not the NAD, which is what I'm currently doing, plus reducing dose. It's all rather a pain in the ass.
I truly hope you stop gellin'. Let us know.
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Added another 10 and let it get to room temp. Little grimmies are still there. Gonna toss it.
So is this the gelling I've heard of are something else going on?
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@ogsteve I dont think that would be it. Many of us are using that for Recon and no issues.
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@Nuncles maybe the nacl BAC was a factor? Are you using that for comfort purposes? I haven’t tried it but I did 5mg 30iu with regular hospira BAC three days ago and it was like butter for me. 8mm 31ga in the love handles nice and slow.
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Always great to try and identify what if anything has caused an issue but it is worth mentioning that shit just happens sometimes. I've had this happen to one vial. Recon a second bought at the same time as the first with the same hospira and it was fine.
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