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Hey Randy, Mike here, owner of AminoVex. Fair question, and I'd rather answer it head-on than let it sit.
You're right that our current certificates list P4R Wholesale as the client. P4R is our supplier. Each batch was sent to MDx BioAnalytical Laboratory, an independent U.S. lab, and the batch numbers on those COAs are the same batch numbers on the vials we ship. Our products are manufactured in the USA. These are real reports, not templates. Every one carries a search code you can check yourself on mdxbiolabs.com under the Certificates of Analysis tab.
A couple of examples from the current batches:
- BPC-157, batch 260507BP103: 99.78% purity, 10.42 mg measured, endotoxin PASS (MDx search code 261664)
- BPC-157 / TB-500, batch 260510WS103: 99.73% purity, 10.15 / 10.89 mg measured, endotoxin PASS (MDx search code 261657)
That said, I agree a vendor should have COAs in its own name, and that's already underway: we're working with the lab to get every product's testing issued directly to AminoVex. I'll post the new reports in this thread as soon as they land.
On COAs you have to request: those are only our GLP products. Every other product's COA is public by batch number at aminovex.com/coas. GLP documentation is sent on request through that page.
Appreciate you keeping vendors honest. That's what this forum is for, and we're happy to be held to it.
Mike
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Hey Randy, Mike here, owner of AminoVex. Fair question, and I'd rather answer it head-on than let it sit.
You're right that our current certificates list P4R Wholesale as the client. P4R is our supplier. Each batch was sent to MDx BioAnalytical Laboratory, an independent U.S. lab, and the batch numbers on those COAs are the same batch numbers on the vials we ship. Our products are manufactured in the USA. These are real reports, not templates. Every one carries a search code you can check yourself on mdxbiolabs.com under the Certificates of Analysis tab.
A couple of examples from the current batches:
- BPC-157, batch 260507BP103: 99.78% purity, 10.42 mg measured, endotoxin PASS (MDx search code 261664)
- BPC-157 / TB-500, batch 260510WS103: 99.73% purity, 10.15 / 10.89 mg measured, endotoxin PASS (MDx search code 261657)
That said, I agree a vendor should have COAs in its own name, and that's already underway: we're working with the lab to get every product's testing issued directly to AminoVex. I'll post the new reports in this thread as soon as they land.
On COAs you have to request: those are only our GLP products. Every other product's COA is public by batch number at aminovex.com/coas. GLP documentation is sent on request through that page.
Appreciate you keeping vendors honest. That's what this forum is for, and we're happy to be held to it.
Mike
AminoVexThat said, I agree a vendor should have COAs in its own name, and that's already underway: we're working with the lab to get every product's testing issued directly to AminoVex. I'll post the new reports in this thread as soon as they land.
That's not good enough. What you need to do is AFTER you get the product, to then send it in YOURSELF from your own batch for testing. Just having your vendor sending it in and having that lab issue the COA under your company name is worthless.
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@aminovex Why are you advertising 3p testing on your site when you havent 3rd party tested?
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@denti fair point, and I agree with you. A COA re-issued in our name is still a sample our supplier picked. So here's what we're doing instead: we'll pull sealed vials from our own shelf stock, the same ones that ship to customers, and send them to an independent lab ourselves. Results go up in this thread, good or bad.
@Mydogdaryl423 good question. MDx is an independent lab with no ties to us or our supplier, which is why we called it third-party testing. But you're right that the samples came from our supplier, not from us, and that's the part people care about. Until our own submissions are back, we'll change the wording on the site so it says exactly what was done.
Thanks to both of you for pushing on this. It makes us better.
Mike
AminoVex
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