New Lab - Koverlabs, a bit concerning?
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Although the new COAs look more detailed and robust, it appears that there's little to no information anywhere regarding Kovera Labs. Even the Kovera website seems to have the bare minimum information required but nothing touting the staff or their certifications. What is really troubling is that a quick google search indicates that the IP registration information overlaps with that of InstantPeptides.com which would indicate they're operated by the same folks. Anyone have any information on Kovera labs? I like InstantPeptides.com but if they're taking short cuts---not sure they're going to be a good spot to purchase from anymore.
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Many vendors moved to Kovera recently. Should this be a concern to avoid them?
On another price index forum the admin there made a post a month ago that he tried to reach out to Kovera owner as he does for all other labs and Kovera was surprisingly standoffish, avoiding any open communication and contact with him.
That's a red flag IMO. Why would a testing lab owner not want to talk to a price index admin unless they have something they are trying to hide?
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Ive never set foot in the facility but i know its real. A lot of the vendors we are friendly with moved that direction because they were looking at 4-5 week delays from chromate and vanguard was losing their samples. They steer clear of trustpointe because the COA "isnt aesthetic" or something.
I know its a real place with real equipment. And they haven't been around long enough to take bribes like jano did 2 years ago from SSA....so there's that.
Im going to get some random compounds I already have results on from another lab and shoot them over to Kovera as TimTam von Dickerson so he doesnt know its us.
Lets see what those results say.
"If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"
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Ive never set foot in the facility but i know its real. A lot of the vendors we are friendly with moved that direction because they were looking at 4-5 week delays from chromate and vanguard was losing their samples. They steer clear of trustpointe because the COA "isnt aesthetic" or something.
I know its a real place with real equipment. And they haven't been around long enough to take bribes like jano did 2 years ago from SSA....so there's that.
Im going to get some random compounds I already have results on from another lab and shoot them over to Kovera as TimTam von Dickerson so he doesnt know its us.
Lets see what those results say.
@Randy Awesome! That's why I love online pep communities and admins like you.
That's essentially my support system to survive and thrive in the RUO world. Hehe
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Ive never set foot in the facility but i know its real. A lot of the vendors we are friendly with moved that direction because they were looking at 4-5 week delays from chromate and vanguard was losing their samples. They steer clear of trustpointe because the COA "isnt aesthetic" or something.
I know its a real place with real equipment. And they haven't been around long enough to take bribes like jano did 2 years ago from SSA....so there's that.
Im going to get some random compounds I already have results on from another lab and shoot them over to Kovera as TimTam von Dickerson so he doesnt know its us.
Lets see what those results say.
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@gym.rat said:
Glacier even admits to photoshopped testing being sent to them. I need to start a real lab company. That's what is really missing in this niche industry.
He’s calling out bad labs doing this. Not using the CoAs is how I interpreted that statement.
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@gym.rat It doesn't cost millions of dollars to test peptides. The equipment is less than 250k . I visited a lab which was in a small office building with a sterile room the size of walk in close. There isn't much to it and they bought some equipment used and were under $200k
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Its a pretty crazy accusation with very little proof. Someone doesn't want people to know who they are in a high risk industry. Really? Someone used AI on their website and social media. That's every company. Shared space? Has anyone ever visited a small lab? It's the size of a walk in closer. Instant Pepdites website shows lab testing. How does this mean they buddy up to anyone. People own multiple domains. Big, big jump to get to faked COA's. Plenty of people on there saying they have used the lab. One post shows a Glacier product that Kovera failed, and another lab passed. I think before we make business-killing accusations off some guy on X and discord that seems unhinged we should wait for some REAL facts. The only real question mark for me is their website doesn't any accreditions, accolades or certifications that I can see although these would be easy to fake. Cameras in the lab as Glacier said Kovera is going to do and live stream it would be game changing.
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This is a vendor I have used a bunch after a video I watched by @randy. They manufacture in a GMP facility in the US and go out of their way from a customer service perspective. Insinuating that they are in bed with a fake lab to me is too much at this point.
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@pep_researcher Didn't Jano get caught taking a bribe?
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@pep_researcher Didn't Jano get caught taking a bribe?
@Stevepep I'm unaware of this. Can you give some resources of proving the bribe? If it was true, I wouldn't imagine the founder continuing with public facing interviews and all. Ain't it?
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