@michellefouch I'm currently running ARA-290 from Nexaph.

@randy That's fantastic for choosing a lab to use as an individual ... but what I would love (and I'm not sure exactly how to get there) is information that I could use to look at a COA provided by a vendor and evaluate how much I choose to trust the lab they used.

@randy This is a half baked thought - and its not entirely clear to me exactly what form it would take - but having some sort of Lab Directory where information on labs and their qualities could be aggregated (similar to the Vendor Directory) would be helpful. When I start looking at new Vendors - I often have to go try to reconstruct from the forums the state of the Lab used for their COAs.

@denti Yeah - instead of changing labs they did something very smart with the first batch they had at 97% - they got a second opinion. They sent the same batch out to a second lab and made that data public. The second lab clocked them in at higher purity.

The reason that was smart is in a transparent honest way it implies that when you are looking at other labs 99%+ numbers for Tesa maybe you should think twice.

I also noticed they went right back to using just Janoshik for subsequent batches, probably meaning they don't quite trust the alt lab numbers either.

@denti That's what I'd been hoping for. But given this is the third batch - I'm beginning to suspect we won't be getting back to that place

@mydogdaryl423 Oh I am well aware of the lab trust issue

@stevepep you are starting to get into my "open to hearing counter arguments" point. So are folks just accepting that while 97% isn't great - its probably what we were getting before from Nexaph and that everyone else using Janoshik is getting the same and we don't trust the numbers from the other labs?

Nexaph has just put up the third batch of Tesamorelin in a row with 97-ish% purity. While I commend their honesty and transparency - and it makes me trust them much more overall - that purity level is lower than I currently feel comfortable with (happy to hear counter arguments on this).

Which leaves me with the question - what suppliers do folks like these days for Tesamorelin?

It appears the previous batch of MOTS-C - MOT1007162026-20 was also in the 97% and change range on the Janoshik testing. Their most recent batch of MOTS-C MOT1008212026-21 is coming in mid 98% to low 99%.

I'd also recommend testing Copper RBC, Copper, and Ceruloplasmin. Copper RBC lets you know your long term cellular Copper levels. Copper and Ceruloplasmin will let you compute free copper in serum. The odds of your GHK-cu at any reasonable dose leading to copper toxicity are low... but I'm paranoid and so track it

Estimated Free Copper = Copper - 3x Ceruloplasmin

Basically the Copper measurement measures total copper in serum. Usually copper is bound up in Cerulosplasmin.

@stevepep to be clear: while I'm disappointed in the poor purity results for two tesamorelin batches in a row - overall the honesty about it reflects well on Nexaph in my mind.

Nexaph has a new batch of Tesamorelin - sadly still coming in at 97% and change purity

@jdot I do not. Between Nexaph's own testing and the community testing on telegram I generally hit my own comfort level. I do it specifically for 5-amino-1mq because Nexaph uses Janoshik, and Janoshik doesn't provide purity for 5-amino-1mq... and once I'm testing for purity, I might as well test for everything else as well.

@mikemiranda for me - its a balance between dilution (to reduce sting) and total volume for the dose. At 100 mg in 20 ml I don't feel a sting at all

@mikemiranda What you are describing will work. As for myself, I tend to do a 100mg vial into 20 ml of bac water so as to lessen the sting. In that case 2mg would be 40 units. I do this by putting 3 ml of Bac water into the original 100 mg vial. I then draw that and put it into a 20 ml vial and added another 17 ml of bac water.

How much to dilute is a matter of personal comfort around the sting of injection.

OK... maybe I'm just slow today... but the links to Janoshik from the new test all the things sites at Nexaph are no longer direct... they take you to a form that needs the task id and unique key... the Nexaph end provides the unique key... but I don't see the task id anywhere. Am I just blind?

@stevepep sorry to have gotten that wrong... I'd missed the second mass/purity tab Now I just have to figure out how to get all the direct QR codes onto my labels and still remain phone scannable on a curved vial surface

@pep_researcher I see that now... I am over all super pleased with the test coverage... but a little concerned about the less than 99% purity test from Jashonik.

@pep_researcher The main purity/mass testing for the some Tesamorelin I just received is showing Freedom Labs - please note - I don't think this is a concern to me... but it appears to be more than just the group tests.

@pep_researcher I keep a bottle of liquid benadryl right there when I inject MOTS-C - not a perfect hedge - but also not nothing. (and note, I've never had any issues with MOTS-C and dose 5mg 3x a week - I'm just cautious)

@randy Could you put your reconstituting GHKCU video up on Rumble or Twitter? I don't see it there and its the goto for this question