Tesamorelin Research Dosing Protocol
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@rburger01 I’m researching 2mg a day M-F. I use 2ml BAC in a 10mg vial. Daily dosage is 40 units.
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@rburger01
Tonight I am mixing up 4 vials into one cart with 3ml bac water and will research 14 units ~2mg/day.I research first thing after waking up (fasted) and typically don’t eat for 2 hours.
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@neil-mccauley I have researched Serm, Tesa, and CJC/Ipa and I can tell you with 100% certainty they work. I think the reason CJC/Ipa has the reputation and popularity it does is that you start noticing results in weeks, not months. Sermorelin is ‘gentler’ and takes months to notice a difference(great for revenue streams at the T clinic). I am only a few weeks into Tesa and have been injured so I can’t speak to results yet.
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Week 4 of Tesa and my Hume is telling me that my visceral fat index is up. Not sure exactly what that means. Will continue to monitor through the next month as I get back into a full workout schedule. After that will be cycling back to CJC/Ipa.
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I ordered from a vendor and they sent me 'free' sterile water with a note that said we reccomend sterile water instead of BAC. I am confused since I was going to use the 10mg within a week. So watching Randy's video, I should be fine and not have the thickening issue. Is this correct?
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I always use Hospira BAC for my Tes/Ipa and have never had a problem. I did a 12 week course this past winter and I am 4 weeks in on a 16 week course currently.
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I always use Hospira BAC for my Tes/Ipa and have never had a problem. I did a 12 week course this past winter and I am 4 weeks in on a 16 week course currently.
I always use Hospira BAC for my Tes/Ipa and have never had a problem. I did a 12 week course this past winter and I am 4 weeks in on a 16 week course currently.
16 weeks on the same bottle of bac?
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No I go through BAC fairly quickly with all of the other peps I do in that time. Probably from 3 different BACs.
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Just a quick update. I don’t know with certainty that it is from the Tesa, but since starting research, I have noticed not that my hands are swollen, but that they feel kind of swollen, if that makes sense, and my thumbs and wrists have been pretty sore. I’ve generally had more joint soreness as well despite continued KLOW research. I will give it another couple weeks but am likely going to accelerate the move back to CJC/Ipa, which was working very well for me.
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I get a puffy in the finger joints feeling from both, but feel it more so with tesa. It does not make physiological sense unless the GH pulse is higher with tesa. Probably largely my imagination but it's the main reason why I run CJC/Ipa. Never compared Igf levels between the two so who knows.
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Just a quick update. I don’t know with certainty that it is from the Tesa, but since starting research, I have noticed not that my hands are swollen, but that they feel kind of swollen, if that makes sense, and my thumbs and wrists have been pretty sore. I’ve generally had more joint soreness as well despite continued KLOW research. I will give it another couple weeks but am likely going to accelerate the move back to CJC/Ipa, which was working very well for me.
@ResearchCat I don't have any experience on Tesa but I've read and talked to people that said it causes water retention and sometimes joint pain.
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Im really struggling with Tesa over CJC. It requires much higher dosing (like 8x more expensive just based on 250mcg vs 2mg dosing), is less stable in the vial from what I gather, and essentially does the same thing.
Is it the FDA approval? I know it is hailed as the 'visceral fat' pick for these GHRH analogs but the reason for that is because it was tested for it...the others are going to do the same thing, which is getting the downstream IGF-1 boost.
What am I missing?
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Nope, you nailed it. People do it for the visceral fat. IMO, If you tolerate it well, CJC/IPA is the answer.
Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude
If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.
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Nope, you nailed it. People do it for the visceral fat. IMO, If you tolerate it well, CJC/IPA is the answer.
@hunt_ak Tesamorelin is claimed to be effective for visceral fat because it was FDA-approved for that purpose, so there were studies confirming it. But all it is - a slightly modified 44-amino-acid Growth Hormone-Releasing Hormone (GHRH). CJC-1295 is also, a slightly modified 29-amino-acid fragment of the same GHRH hormone (while Sermorelin is 1-29 unmodified fragment, btw). So, it's smaller, which means more molecules per mg, and it may be as effective in smaller doses. CJC-1295 wasn't tested for visceral fat as much as Tesamorelin, not that it would fail the testing. It could be as effective or even more effective than Tesamorelin, we just don't have the trials.
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I saw an influencer state that due to the length of the amino chain structure of Tesa being longer than most peptides, that it should be stored at room temperature and used within 7 days. He was saying that due to the length it has a tendency to fold on itself, and refrigeration makes that more likely. Sounded convincing, but so does a lot of things that aren't necessarily true.
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@hunt_ak Tesamorelin is claimed to be effective for visceral fat because it was FDA-approved for that purpose, so there were studies confirming it. But all it is - a slightly modified 44-amino-acid Growth Hormone-Releasing Hormone (GHRH). CJC-1295 is also, a slightly modified 29-amino-acid fragment of the same GHRH hormone (while Sermorelin is 1-29 unmodified fragment, btw). So, it's smaller, which means more molecules per mg, and it may be as effective in smaller doses. CJC-1295 wasn't tested for visceral fat as much as Tesamorelin, not that it would fail the testing. It could be as effective or even more effective than Tesamorelin, we just don't have the trials.
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I saw an influencer state that due to the length of the amino chain structure of Tesa being longer than most peptides, that it should be stored at room temperature and used within 7 days. He was saying that due to the length it has a tendency to fold on itself, and refrigeration makes that more likely. Sounded convincing, but so does a lot of things that aren't necessarily true.
@50PLUSFIT I also believe this to be true based on the anecdotal evidence I've seen of friends and online people running into issues with refrigerating Tesa. I've not seen any reports of CJC 'going cloudy' or whatever but many with Tesa
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I have been using Tesa for 4 months straight now. No issues whatsoever. No cloudiness, no gelling, nothing. I take 1.5mg to 2mg every night. My mixed Tesa is stored in the fridge same as all the rest. I mix a 30mg cart (30mg Tesa in 3ml bac), that cart lasts me 15 to 20 days. Tesa makes me sleepy… and it doesn’t loose that effectiveness at all for the whole cart. So take it for what it is worth.
Additionally, I have definitely lost a decent amount of visceral fat on it. I had a dexa scan just before starting it, my stomach protruded a lot (Like a Navy Chief
). Now it doesn’t at all. I am due for another dexa scan soon to see the actual hard numbers. I don’t use those shit scales because they are not accurate. Take it for what it is worth.
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