GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol
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@peptidepete Take this with the affection intended: watch your copper rbc numbers
You are probably fine. But its too cheap a hedge not to take 
@PeptideEd hey bud, are you going to give us some of your copper tricks of the trade?
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@diegoc LOL - I don't feel like I'm that sophisticated a GHKCU user... but the meager tricks I do have I'm happy to share.
I get my blood work done via Ultalabs which uses Quest under the covers. The two tests I do roughly monthly for copper are:
- Copper RBC - which is a decent proxy for cellular copper status - I use this to watch out for copper toxicity.
- Zinc RBC - which I use to check zinc cellular levels.
Having the Zinc/Copper ratio to far out of balance leads to all kinds of downstream mischief... independent of actual copper toxicity. In my case my zinc rbc pointed to the need to supplement zinc more than I had been doing.
My only other trick really is to dilute with more bac water to reduce stinging as @randy recommended in this video.
Hope some of that helps
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Just a little update on me. Im doing 3mgs a day now. Might go to 5 for the culture. If one of you goes to 20 ill have no choice but to go to 21.
@Randy said in GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:
Just a little update on me. Im doing 3mgs a day now. Might go to 5 for the culture. If one of you goes to 20 ill have no choice but to go to 21.
LOL!I remain on 10mg daily and my wife got pissed at my skin and demanded to start pinning it even though she does not care for multiple shots per day. She tolerated 2.5mg with no ISR and I bumped her to 5mg where she is now.
I am finishing off 63mg vials with 3ml BAC, then I dilute again in the inj syringe prior to pinning.
I really like Dr Kristi Sawicki on YT, smart independent thinking person: Link
Her perspective on GHK and cancer, with her background, is quite thought provoking. Quite...
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@Randy said in GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:
Just a little update on me. Im doing 3mgs a day now. Might go to 5 for the culture. If one of you goes to 20 ill have no choice but to go to 21.
LOL!I remain on 10mg daily and my wife got pissed at my skin and demanded to start pinning it even though she does not care for multiple shots per day. She tolerated 2.5mg with no ISR and I bumped her to 5mg where she is now.
I am finishing off 63mg vials with 3ml BAC, then I dilute again in the inj syringe prior to pinning.
I really like Dr Kristi Sawicki on YT, smart independent thinking person: Link
Her perspective on GHK and cancer, with her background, is quite thought provoking. Quite...
@PeptidePete hey “Copper Pete” lol
I just whipped up a batch of KLOW Since i was doing all the other peptides for my Gut I figured i would RS the max dose on copper.
Its crazy because i dont know if my body/butt will tolerate those mgs.
I went from 2mg to 2.5 in KLOW and i feel it, so lets see if i can keep uping the dose however I will add the copper toxicity test this month.
I do see all my fine wrinkles disappear, what are you seeing on your end thats mind blowing?
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@diegoc LOL - I don't feel like I'm that sophisticated a GHKCU user... but the meager tricks I do have I'm happy to share.
I get my blood work done via Ultalabs which uses Quest under the covers. The two tests I do roughly monthly for copper are:
- Copper RBC - which is a decent proxy for cellular copper status - I use this to watch out for copper toxicity.
- Zinc RBC - which I use to check zinc cellular levels.
Having the Zinc/Copper ratio to far out of balance leads to all kinds of downstream mischief... independent of actual copper toxicity. In my case my zinc rbc pointed to the need to supplement zinc more than I had been doing.
My only other trick really is to dilute with more bac water to reduce stinging as @randy recommended in this video.
Hope some of that helps
@PeptideEd Mr Ed i really appreciate your tricks. Lol
I will order the exact test.
Whats a good ratio that is good for Research from Copper to Zinc.
Thanks
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@PeptidePete hey “Copper Pete” lol
I just whipped up a batch of KLOW Since i was doing all the other peptides for my Gut I figured i would RS the max dose on copper.
Its crazy because i dont know if my body/butt will tolerate those mgs.
I went from 2mg to 2.5 in KLOW and i feel it, so lets see if i can keep uping the dose however I will add the copper toxicity test this month.
I do see all my fine wrinkles disappear, what are you seeing on your end thats mind blowing?
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Now im pissed….
Just pinned 2mg of GHK on each but cheeck….
So if i put a target on my but im sure i can do 10mgs a day. Lol
@diegoc said in GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:
Now im pissed….
Just pinned 2mg of GHK on each but cheeck….
So if i put a target on my but im sure i can do 10mgs a day. Lol
LOL! It acts on 3000 genes! Go for the gusto!
PS- my best spot is the soft area (previously a love handle) between upper check and lower back, never any pain. 10mg+ goes in one spot like buttah!!
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@diegoc said in GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:
Now im pissed….
Just pinned 2mg of GHK on each but cheeck….
So if i put a target on my but im sure i can do 10mgs a day. Lol
LOL! It acts on 3000 genes! Go for the gusto!
PS- my best spot is the soft area (previously a love handle) between upper check and lower back, never any pain. 10mg+ goes in one spot like buttah!!
@PeptidePete picture of the spot please
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@peptidepete ok Pete…
3mg of KLOW on each new LoveHandle/upperButtocks
Like Butter.!!!
So im up to 6mg GHK Subq, 2mg Sublingual, 1mg Topical…
I think i will test 7mg max Subq and test for copper end of Feb as per @peptideed recommendations.
Zinc came in middle to upper range so not low
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@PeptidePete picture of the spot please
@diegoc said in GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:
@PeptidePete picture of the spot please
I actually do have limits
Currently researching 12mg per pin, probing for sides. So far none. My suspicion, based on zero facts and an N of one, is GHK is going to turn out to be a key ingredient to healthspan optimization and perhaps longevity as well.
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@diegoc said in GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:
@PeptidePete picture of the spot please
I actually do have limits
Currently researching 12mg per pin, probing for sides. So far none. My suspicion, based on zero facts and an N of one, is GHK is going to turn out to be a key ingredient to healthspan optimization and perhaps longevity as well.
@PeptidePete thats pretty insane how high you can tolerate.
My 3mg each side my hips are like Shakira Hips…
Mild spicy, not Hot but good feeling spicy.
I will do a week and up the dose.
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@diegoc said in GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:
@PeptidePete picture of the spot please
I actually do have limits
Currently researching 12mg per pin, probing for sides. So far none. My suspicion, based on zero facts and an N of one, is GHK is going to turn out to be a key ingredient to healthspan optimization and perhaps longevity as well.
@PeptidePete 12!?!?!?!? ok im going to 15.
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I watched this Kristi Sawacki video yesterday and feel like I am fortunate to have been exposed to the discussion. A MUST WATCH for any thoughtful longevity/healthspan researcher. Her background is disclosed at the beginning, GHK-Cu discussed slightly past half-way point. The entire video as far as I am concerned pure gold. One of the best, ORIGINAL, thinkers I know of.
What we don't know is- how dose dependent are GHK-Cu's benefits? My N of one shows I look and feel great and have no sides, now at 12.5 per pin, per day, and I have personal high-confidence what I am experimenting with is the right path. Each researcher has to consider their unique milieu.
Side note reiteration: once I found "the" spots, injection is a total nothingburger. Same for the wife, pins, and zero issues. Same two spots on each side, EOD, no lumps, no discoloration, no nothing.
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Currently researching with 15 mg per day. Thankfully the stuff doesn't cost what ss31 does lol. Still feeling fine with minimal ISR with one well diluted pin.
Not in any way saying that everyone should do it or that I recommend it, but lucky for the rest of you I'm that guy testing the max dosing.
I dug as deeply as I could trying to determine if there was any reliable evidence whatsoever the GHK benefits are dose dependent. I was not able to find anything. if somebody does find something, would they please post a link. Thanks in advance
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Currently researching with 15 mg per day. Thankfully the stuff doesn't cost what ss31 does lol. Still feeling fine with minimal ISR with one well diluted pin.
Not in any way saying that everyone should do it or that I recommend it, but lucky for the rest of you I'm that guy testing the max dosing.
I dug as deeply as I could trying to determine if there was any reliable evidence whatsoever the GHK benefits are dose dependent. I was not able to find anything. if somebody does find something, would they please post a link. Thanks in advance
@PeptidePete hey Pete…
Any time off or just checking BW monthly to see what happens
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@PeptidePete hey Pete…
Any time off or just checking BW monthly to see what happens
@diegoc said in GHK-Cu Subcutaneous Research Dosing Protocol:
@PeptidePete hey Pete…
Any time off or just checking BW monthly to see what happens
Daily, no time off.
I just noticed and showed my wife the back of my hand. While not transparent...lol...I can flex my tendons on back of hand and skin perfectly drapes over each and actually wraps around the tendon for the first finger. It is quite striking, crazy stuff. No way to directly attribute this effect to the GHK but the skin looks "super fucking healthy"...haha.
Other observation- skin instantly snaps back after the "pinch test" on back of hand. I mean instantly. Great elasticity. As far as I am concerned an inarguable sign of health.
No neg sides I can discern.
PS- it is 10-15% humidity where I live, yes my skin is dry. Also, I am 65 years old.
