Flawless Compound Retatrutide (Reta) – Replacement Vial Even Worse Than the First (Cloudy + Undissolved White Gel)
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Ive used flawless for tb500, bpc157, pt141, mot-c, kpv... all were great. No issue. Fast service. COA's all checked out as well with said laboratories.
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@randy Hey man, have you ever run into vendors that start off strong — providing all the verified COAs, third-party testing, and all that good stuff — only to switch up later and stop delivering on the same quality and testing they claim? Then they start sending noticeably worse product?
Just curious because this vendor is literally the only Reta vendor I’ve had consistent issues with. Everything else has been solid, but with them it feels like something is off. -
I always say a vendor is good until they aren't. Cloudy reta is unfortunately becoming more an more common.
Please go leave a review.
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@Randy just left a review. Forgot to include the pictures so I’ll include those after it posts.
You have any idea what makes the Reta cloudy and why the vials left with a soapy un-dissolved white gel substance? -
@Randy
Can/should this be tested for? Seems like a nasty contaminate if it remains present after the manufacturing process and the old 'eyeball' review of the vial seems inadequate. -
@Stones67 Vanguard does TFA salts test, at least Peptidology COAs from it include it.
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I hope by now everyone knows how vendors like this get their product.
If you don’t, here is a quick rundown that will explain why some of their products might be good and some might be bad, and why one product could be good now but next time you buy it it is bad.
THESE VENDORS DO NOT MAKE THEIR PRODUCTS!
Hopefully after saying that people will logically understand. But if you don’t I will explain a little more in depth….
The vendors buy from the same grey market suppliers you and I can buy from, and they don’t buy them from the same grey market supplier every time. Why you ask? Because the supplier they used one time doesn’t have the product in stock currently or the supplier they used last tine went out if business. Or they got a better deal because they bought through a group buy - that happens a lot, follow some of the group buys and it is easy to see how many of the people buying are resellers. You will also notice that sometimes a few companies seem to be having the same exact problems at the same exact time. Like say MT1 in their KPV.
Think about it logically. Do you think any of these little companies have the money, equipment or know who to do the process? No. So then do you think their is some big Pharma company willing to make this stuff for them in small batches? No. So where do you think they are actually getting them from?
So even a Vendor that wants to only have great products may not always have the opportunity too.
The now gone LN peptides was a huge wholesaler to a bunch of these companies, they started have problems (Failing Sterileness) then did an exit scam and ripped of a bunch of people, to include a few resellers for 10s of thousands of dollars.
Vendors are good until they are not, I think someone on here has warned us all about that from the day he started this forum. Has anyone on this forum really not read some post where he has repeatedly told us that? So why do we keep asking the same question? Do we think he is going to change his answer? There will never be a list on here or anywhere else where there is a guarantee that the vendor selling peptides is good and always be good. If you want 95% consistency, Elli Lilly is your best bet… -
I hope by now everyone knows how vendors like this get their product.
If you don’t, here is a quick rundown that will explain why some of their products might be good and some might be bad, and why one product could be good now but next time you buy it it is bad.
THESE VENDORS DO NOT MAKE THEIR PRODUCTS!
Hopefully after saying that people will logically understand. But if you don’t I will explain a little more in depth….
The vendors buy from the same grey market suppliers you and I can buy from, and they don’t buy them from the same grey market supplier every time. Why you ask? Because the supplier they used one time doesn’t have the product in stock currently or the supplier they used last tine went out if business. Or they got a better deal because they bought through a group buy - that happens a lot, follow some of the group buys and it is easy to see how many of the people buying are resellers. You will also notice that sometimes a few companies seem to be having the same exact problems at the same exact time. Like say MT1 in their KPV.
Think about it logically. Do you think any of these little companies have the money, equipment or know who to do the process? No. So then do you think their is some big Pharma company willing to make this stuff for them in small batches? No. So where do you think they are actually getting them from?
So even a Vendor that wants to only have great products may not always have the opportunity too.
The now gone LN peptides was a huge wholesaler to a bunch of these companies, they started have problems (Failing Sterileness) then did an exit scam and ripped of a bunch of people, to include a few resellers for 10s of thousands of dollars.
Vendors are good until they are not, I think someone on here has warned us all about that from the day he started this forum. Has anyone on this forum really not read some post where he has repeatedly told us that? So why do we keep asking the same question? Do we think he is going to change his answer? There will never be a list on here or anywhere else where there is a guarantee that the vendor selling peptides is good and always be good. If you want 95% consistency, Elli Lilly is your best bet…@Commander I think most people realize this. The question becomes, is the vendor doing the work or trying to cheat the system to make a quick buck? I have stopped chasing the best deals from every vendor. I am a massive fan of the two I prefer and have done my own testing to verify their testing. Its a matter of risk tolerance. I do not believe I need to continue to test every 10 pack I get from this vendor. I will still randomly test for my own sanity. They are vetted enough for me to feel comfortable.
How about this one? People are attracted to Crush because they run full panels. Has there been any third party testing? If there has I have not seen it. I have not seen any third party verify what they post as their COA's.
The nutty part is that people will say Crush is better than Nexaph because they do more tests, which is false because Nexaph pays for third party testing and tests for everything. On top of that, it's less risky because of the third-party testing. Nexaph because of this confusion has now added full panel testing. In thier mind they thought the third party testing was the best way to prove out what they sell bu many people just never did the research and thought Crush was better
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@Commander I think most people realize this. The question becomes, is the vendor doing the work or trying to cheat the system to make a quick buck? I have stopped chasing the best deals from every vendor. I am a massive fan of the two I prefer and have done my own testing to verify their testing. Its a matter of risk tolerance. I do not believe I need to continue to test every 10 pack I get from this vendor. I will still randomly test for my own sanity. They are vetted enough for me to feel comfortable.
How about this one? People are attracted to Crush because they run full panels. Has there been any third party testing? If there has I have not seen it. I have not seen any third party verify what they post as their COA's.
The nutty part is that people will say Crush is better than Nexaph because they do more tests, which is false because Nexaph pays for third party testing and tests for everything. On top of that, it's less risky because of the third-party testing. Nexaph because of this confusion has now added full panel testing. In thier mind they thought the third party testing was the best way to prove out what they sell bu many people just never did the research and thought Crush was better
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@clyde242 Hey, have you tried the Reta yet? This is my second order and it’s honestly way worse than the first one. The pictures above pretty much prove something’s off with their batch.
@MJ227 have not purchased reta from flawless. I did just get a bunch of AOD and it was solid. My pops got some reta and it did not gel on him. So idk. I agree with what others are saying. None of these sites deserve our respect and sooner or later if their in it for a quick buck their true colors will show. Gotta stay on the research and talk with others to stay up to date.
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@MJ227 have not purchased reta from flawless. I did just get a bunch of AOD and it was solid. My pops got some reta and it did not gel on him. So idk. I agree with what others are saying. None of these sites deserve our respect and sooner or later if their in it for a quick buck their true colors will show. Gotta stay on the research and talk with others to stay up to date.
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How odd this is. I've never bought Reta from them but have plenty of their Survo in the freezer and fridge and it always reconned well, as long as the Survo and Bac was room temp.
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@Eleanor The pictures don't lie. So maybe they should change there name to "Imperfect compounds". Glad you had a better experience but everything I've received has been throw in the trash.
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