MOTS-C DO you need if
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@Stevepep Adding to gymrat. Personally I never had a reaction to MOTSc. My experience with motsc was Hell fucking yeah out the gate! lol I only had one histamine reactions on my first vial of Reta. Who knows, probably the 10 EU/kgI of endotoxin from the 99.999 Reta I purchase from that cute chinese girl. I am one that got that local reaction from a few that have used from that batch. Agree starting low. 500mcg = 0.5mg just to make sure there is no allergic reaction. If youre clear of no reactions then you can start titrating up till you find your sweet spot. Find your least and most effective dose. I will advice all to have some benadryl close or in your pepkit. Just in case you get any allergic reaction. For the amount of peps Im taking right now I should have an epinephrine pen.
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@gym.rat Yes i did. who know probably the BAC. But I got through it. Still on reta and nada now. I had that reaction with CJC/ipa no dac. I gave it away. I didnt see myself with daily welts. But my friend didn't get any reaction. Like the reta. Only I did.
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@stevepep
A word from an old lady who used to be in great shape before a completely unforeseen illness struck."If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" If your beyond where you thought you'd be, if your regimen is already working great, don't add anything more to it.
Signed,
From an old lady who wishes she knew then what she knows now!
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@Commander what dose do you take and do you take it in the morning . I am about to start the SS-31 protocol
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I only take 1.5MGish (use a pen so they might be a hair off depending on pens accuracy). I take it first thing in the morning when I get up, 7 days a week.The L-METHYLFOLATE (5-MTHF) vitamin is key when using MOTS-C. I didn’t take the SS-31 until about the 5 week of taking MOTS-C. I am only going to take one cycle of SS-31 every couple of months. It did help.I also take NAD+ 35mg 7 days a week.
But after years of having to take Nuvigil everyday and now no longer needed it, the Mots-C has been a god send… -
I only take 1.5MGish (use a pen so they might be a hair off depending on pens accuracy). I take it first thing in the morning when I get up, 7 days a week.The L-METHYLFOLATE (5-MTHF) vitamin is key when using MOTS-C. I didn’t take the SS-31 until about the 5 week of taking MOTS-C. I am only going to take one cycle of SS-31 every couple of months. It did help.I also take NAD+ 35mg 7 days a week.
But after years of having to take Nuvigil everyday and now no longer needed it, the Mots-C has been a god send…@Commander I need to look into that vitamin is that an Amazon thing. I always love hearing about people getting off of meds. I have a friend who is no longer on metformin after years thanks to peptides and a healthy diet. His insulin levels are in check now
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@Commander I need to look into that vitamin is that an Amazon thing. I always love hearing about people getting off of meds. I have a friend who is no longer on metformin after years thanks to peptides and a healthy diet. His insulin levels are in check now
@Stevepep
This is the exact one I take. Think of it as the “fuel” for the MOTS-C to work. I read some paper by a doctor about it. They weren’t kidding, it supercharged the Mot-C..BioActive Vitamin B Complex -... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLWYK1GY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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@Stevepep
This is the exact one I take. Think of it as the “fuel” for the MOTS-C to work. I read some paper by a doctor about it. They weren’t kidding, it supercharged the Mot-C..BioActive Vitamin B Complex -... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLWYK1GY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@Commander ordered thanks
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@Commander I need to look into that vitamin is that an Amazon thing. I always love hearing about people getting off of meds. I have a friend who is no longer on metformin after years thanks to peptides and a healthy diet. His insulin levels are in check now
Focusing on the Mitochondria support (energy/ATP)
Monday-Wednesday-Friday
MOTSC 1mg-2mg
NAD+ 10-20mg
SS-32 1mg
Tuesday -Thursday-Saturday
Supplements:
B complex (5-mthf-betaine,-rboflavin- B2,6,9,12) dose vary.
D3 5 mcg-1mg
CoQ10 100mg
Methylene Blue 10-20mg
Saturday and Sunday
I give the peps a break. -
I only take 1.5MGish (use a pen so they might be a hair off depending on pens accuracy). I take it first thing in the morning when I get up, 7 days a week.The L-METHYLFOLATE (5-MTHF) vitamin is key when using MOTS-C. I didn’t take the SS-31 until about the 5 week of taking MOTS-C. I am only going to take one cycle of SS-31 every couple of months. It did help.I also take NAD+ 35mg 7 days a week.
But after years of having to take Nuvigil everyday and now no longer needed it, the Mots-C has been a god send…@Commander did you notice anything from the NAD? People are telling me it's their favorite Peptide. About to do my first run of all 3. My plan is to start with SS-31 for two weeks, then add Mots-c for a week or so, and then add in NAD. Are you using the buffered NAD?
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? maybe @gym.rat or @pep_researcher. Any advice would be appreciated. This is new territory for me. I always start slow and ramp up.
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Methylated B vitamins are life saving, they truly are. There are 2 genes that rule your methylation cycle and if one or both are inactive, you are toast without help from methylated B supplementation. Approx half the people on the planet are non-methylators, having one or both genes inactive. If one gene is not working correctly, your ability to convert B vitamins is about 70%. If both genes are affected, cut that to 30% and it's a real bad situation. Both of my genes are not functioning to full capacity. Methyl B's will save your life.
There is a test for this and you only need to test one time to know your methylation status.
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Methylated B vitamins are life saving, they truly are. There are 2 genes that rule your methylation cycle and if one or both are inactive, you are toast without help from methylated B supplementation. Approx half the people on the planet are non-methylators, having one or both genes inactive. If one gene is not working correctly, your ability to convert B vitamins is about 70%. If both genes are affected, cut that to 30% and it's a real bad situation. Both of my genes are not functioning to full capacity. Methyl B's will save your life.
There is a test for this and you only need to test one time to know your methylation status.
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NAD+ helps a lot. My younger friends (30 to 40) didn’t see a difference when they added in SS-31. I did, I am 54, with a lot of health problems from my time in the Corps. My friends wife does NAD+ and MOTS-C every other day- meaning MOTS-C one day, NAD+ the next, she is you, 45. She loves it for energy.
But without the vitamin, the MOTS-C losses it effectiveness. You can look uo why, it is pretty interesting.
But everyone reacts differently. My friends and I all take the same thing and it works for us. Maybe it won’t work for you,,.I have not idea….but for me, my stack id life changing -
@afkar7 I would have blood drawn for this test. If it comes back with one or both genes dysfunctional, have the test run again. It's that important of an issue, else, you could be sick the rest of your life and no amount of peps or anything else will correct it, esp. if both genes are not working correctly.
For those who are MTHFR's and you feel great to begin with, then, you crash, you're taking too much B vits and it's starting to detox you. There's a positive and negative to everything. I finally got some empty capsules and started splitting the dose and that helped. You might not need to take them every day. At first, probably, but then, it's experimental. Everyone is different.
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