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MOTS-C DO you need if

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    @gym.rat Yes i did. who know probably the BAC. But I got through it. Still on reta and nada now. I had that reaction with CJC/ipa no dac. I gave it away. I didnt see myself with daily welts. But my friend didn't get any reaction. Like the reta. Only I did.

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      @stevepep
      A word from an old lady who used to be in great shape before a completely unforeseen illness struck.

      "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" If your beyond where you thought you'd be, if your regimen is already working great, don't add anything more to it.

      Signed,

      From an old lady who wishes she knew then what she knows now!

      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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        MOTS-C has changed my life in a great way. I no longer need to take my Nuvigil…

        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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          MOTS-C has changed my life in a great way. I no longer need to take my Nuvigil…

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          @Commander what dose do you take and do you take it in the morning . I am about to start the SS-31 protocol

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            I only take 1.5MGish (use a pen so they might be a hair off depending on pens accuracy). I take it first thing in the morning when I get up, 7 days a week.The L-METHYLFOLATE (5-MTHF) vitamin is key when using MOTS-C. I didn’t take the SS-31 until about the 5 week of taking MOTS-C. I am only going to take one cycle of SS-31 every couple of months. It did help.I also take NAD+ 35mg 7 days a week.
            But after years of having to take Nuvigil everyday and now no longer needed it, the Mots-C has been a god send…

            Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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              I only take 1.5MGish (use a pen so they might be a hair off depending on pens accuracy). I take it first thing in the morning when I get up, 7 days a week.The L-METHYLFOLATE (5-MTHF) vitamin is key when using MOTS-C. I didn’t take the SS-31 until about the 5 week of taking MOTS-C. I am only going to take one cycle of SS-31 every couple of months. It did help.I also take NAD+ 35mg 7 days a week.
              But after years of having to take Nuvigil everyday and now no longer needed it, the Mots-C has been a god send…

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              @Commander I need to look into that vitamin is that an Amazon thing. I always love hearing about people getting off of meds. I have a friend who is no longer on metformin after years thanks to peptides and a healthy diet. His insulin levels are in check now

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                @Commander I need to look into that vitamin is that an Amazon thing. I always love hearing about people getting off of meds. I have a friend who is no longer on metformin after years thanks to peptides and a healthy diet. His insulin levels are in check now

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                @Stevepep
                This is the exact one I take. Think of it as the “fuel” for the MOTS-C to work. I read some paper by a doctor about it. They weren’t kidding, it supercharged the Mot-C..

                BioActive Vitamin B Complex -... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLWYK1GY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                  @Stevepep
                  This is the exact one I take. Think of it as the “fuel” for the MOTS-C to work. I read some paper by a doctor about it. They weren’t kidding, it supercharged the Mot-C..

                  BioActive Vitamin B Complex -... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLWYK1GY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

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                  @Commander ordered thanks

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                    @Commander I need to look into that vitamin is that an Amazon thing. I always love hearing about people getting off of meds. I have a friend who is no longer on metformin after years thanks to peptides and a healthy diet. His insulin levels are in check now

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                    Focusing on the Mitochondria support (energy/ATP)
                    Monday-Wednesday-Friday
                    MOTSC 1mg-2mg
                    NAD+ 10-20mg
                    SS-32 1mg
                    Tuesday -Thursday-Saturday
                    Supplements:
                    B complex (5-mthf-betaine,-rboflavin- B2,6,9,12) dose vary.
                    D3 5 mcg-1mg
                    CoQ10 100mg
                    Methylene Blue 10-20mg
                    Saturday and Sunday
                    I give the peps a break.

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                      I only take 1.5MGish (use a pen so they might be a hair off depending on pens accuracy). I take it first thing in the morning when I get up, 7 days a week.The L-METHYLFOLATE (5-MTHF) vitamin is key when using MOTS-C. I didn’t take the SS-31 until about the 5 week of taking MOTS-C. I am only going to take one cycle of SS-31 every couple of months. It did help.I also take NAD+ 35mg 7 days a week.
                      But after years of having to take Nuvigil everyday and now no longer needed it, the Mots-C has been a god send…

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                      @Commander did you notice anything from the NAD? People are telling me it's their favorite Peptide. About to do my first run of all 3. My plan is to start with SS-31 for two weeks, then add Mots-c for a week or so, and then add in NAD. Are you using the buffered NAD?

                      Does anyone have any thoughts on this? maybe @gym.rat or @pep_researcher. Any advice would be appreciated. This is new territory for me. I always start slow and ramp up.

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                        Methylated B vitamins are life saving, they truly are. There are 2 genes that rule your methylation cycle and if one or both are inactive, you are toast without help from methylated B supplementation. Approx half the people on the planet are non-methylators, having one or both genes inactive. If one gene is not working correctly, your ability to convert B vitamins is about 70%. If both genes are affected, cut that to 30% and it's a real bad situation. Both of my genes are not functioning to full capacity. Methyl B's will save your life.

                        There is a test for this and you only need to test one time to know your methylation status.

                        Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                          Methylated B vitamins are life saving, they truly are. There are 2 genes that rule your methylation cycle and if one or both are inactive, you are toast without help from methylated B supplementation. Approx half the people on the planet are non-methylators, having one or both genes inactive. If one gene is not working correctly, your ability to convert B vitamins is about 70%. If both genes are affected, cut that to 30% and it's a real bad situation. Both of my genes are not functioning to full capacity. Methyl B's will save your life.

                          There is a test for this and you only need to test one time to know your methylation status.

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                          @Eleanor said:

                          There is a test for this and you only need to test one time to know your methylation status.

                          I'm guessing you have had this test. If so, did you do one of the "at home" test?

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                            @Eleanor said:

                            There is a test for this and you only need to test one time to know your methylation status.

                            I'm guessing you have had this test. If so, did you do one of the "at home" test?

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                            @afkar7 No, not at home test. Needs a lab.

                            Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                              There might be home tests by now but this is one you do not want to make a mistake with. I made them run mine twice. Came back both genes both times.

                              Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                NAD+ helps a lot. My younger friends (30 to 40) didn’t see a difference when they added in SS-31. I did, I am 54, with a lot of health problems from my time in the Corps. My friends wife does NAD+ and MOTS-C every other day- meaning MOTS-C one day, NAD+ the next, she is you, 45. She loves it for energy.
                                But without the vitamin, the MOTS-C losses it effectiveness. You can look uo why, it is pretty interesting.
                                But everyone reacts differently. My friends and I all take the same thing and it works for us. Maybe it won’t work for you,,.I have not idea….but for me, my stack id life changing

                                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                  @afkar7 No, not at home test. Needs a lab.

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                                  @Eleanor said:

                                  @afkar7 No, not at home test. Needs a lab.

                                  There are sites that offer this as a at home test either blood or saliva. I’m having a yearly physical soon and I guess I can ask my GP about the test.

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                                    @Eleanor said:

                                    @afkar7 No, not at home test. Needs a lab.

                                    There are sites that offer this as a at home test either blood or saliva. I’m having a yearly physical soon and I guess I can ask my GP about the test.

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                                    @afkar7 I would have blood drawn for this test. If it comes back with one or both genes dysfunctional, have the test run again. It's that important of an issue, else, you could be sick the rest of your life and no amount of peps or anything else will correct it, esp. if both genes are not working correctly.

                                    For those who are MTHFR's and you feel great to begin with, then, you crash, you're taking too much B vits and it's starting to detox you. There's a positive and negative to everything. I finally got some empty capsules and started splitting the dose and that helped. You might not need to take them every day. At first, probably, but then, it's experimental. Everyone is different.

                                    Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                      @Commander did you notice anything from the NAD? People are telling me it's their favorite Peptide. About to do my first run of all 3. My plan is to start with SS-31 for two weeks, then add Mots-c for a week or so, and then add in NAD. Are you using the buffered NAD?

                                      Does anyone have any thoughts on this? maybe @gym.rat or @pep_researcher. Any advice would be appreciated. This is new territory for me. I always start slow and ramp up.

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                                      @Stevepep RS never did NAD+ pins. Only NAD precursor capsules.

                                      Honest take - either 🐀 already has good mitochondrial optimization or it's one of those who are non responsive to mitochondrial opt peps.

                                      RS showed noticeable positive research on Sermorelin, BPC, TB and of course GLPs. Going to research Tesa next given Sermo research.

                                      But no such noticeably positive research outcomes on NAD caps, SS-31, or MOTS-C. No negative outcome too. So 🐀 is just running through the current stock to free up freezer space and take them off the table for good.

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                                        What is the deal with everyone claiming they have a “research rat” jist do you know it doesn’t matter if you say you took it or you gave it to some imaginary rat… the law actually doesn’t care, no you are not protecting yourself from anything

                                        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                          What is the deal with everyone claiming they have a “research rat” jist do you know it doesn’t matter if you say you took it or you gave it to some imaginary rat… the law actually doesn’t care, no you are not protecting yourself from anything

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                                          @Commander metaphor, alter egos, favorite animal or Chinese year.

                                          2M

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