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  • vpepsV Online
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    #6

    I guess you can ask to do your thymus MRI at the facility. But 12 months of daily 4 UI HGH, I don't know if you want it. Those DHEA and Metformin were added just to cover up for insulin resistance and increased triglycerides as Dr. Greg Fahy himself explained in an interview I watched.

    Concerning all those thymus peptides, I didn't see anything obvious in my research, no WBC data was changed significantly except that I saw neutrophils increase with thymulin. But I have a good immunity already, so there was nothing to improve except a lower absolute level of lymphocytes, which none of those affected.

    attentiion is all you need

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      @peptideed Try MRP (Modern Research Peptides) they aren't listed in the vendor directory but they have Thymalin, I was looking at it last night, it does appear to be Thymalin. When I went on a search awhile ago for Thymulin I found the opposite, vendors had it listed as Thymulin but the CoA showed Thymalin. Not sure why Vendors aren't looking at this more closely before listing their products 🙂

      I've used them in the past for some other peps, and they provided excellent customer service and fast turnaround. Products worked as expected.

      They are running a sale right now for 35% off. I think I can share the link even though it's not listed on vendor directory right?

      “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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        @vpeptides Yeah... amusingly the scans they used for the thymus do not appear to be available generally... so I can't even do before and after measurements to try to do my own n=1 meaningfully 😞

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        @PeptideEd absolute numbers of CD4 and CD8 lymphocytes, as well as CD4:CD8 ratio is a good marker of thymus regeneration too. Even 10% increase in numbers is a good sign. Just get the real test, not those methylation correlations.

        attentiion is all you need

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        • WisGal64W WisGal64

          @peptideed Try MRP (Modern Research Peptides) they aren't listed in the vendor directory but they have Thymalin, I was looking at it last night, it does appear to be Thymalin. When I went on a search awhile ago for Thymulin I found the opposite, vendors had it listed as Thymulin but the CoA showed Thymalin. Not sure why Vendors aren't looking at this more closely before listing their products 🙂

          I've used them in the past for some other peps, and they provided excellent customer service and fast turnaround. Products worked as expected.

          They are running a sale right now for 35% off. I think I can share the link even though it's not listed on vendor directory right?

          vpepsV Online
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          @WisGal64 even if a lab writes "Thymalin" is still doesn't mean it's not a synthesized nanopeptide (Thymulin). Labs are confused about its naming as well, they tend to just repeat what the customer called it. Also, how do they test for a thymus extract having a dozen of different peptides, do they even know exactly what should be there and in what proportion?

          All ThymAlin COAs I saw showed a nanopeptide of molecular weight 858 g/mol (Thymulin). I looked at Modern Research Peptides and it is Thymulin as well.

          As far as I know, you can buy injectable Thymalin (under another name) in Russia, otherwise you can use capsules of Vladonix or Thymusol, or do what I did and make a blend yourself.

          attentiion is all you need

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            So technically, if they don't show a mol weight of 333.34 which is Thymalin, then it's Thymulin. From what I found, common vendor mislabel has mol weight 862-863(same as Thymulin)

            “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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            • WisGal64W WisGal64

              So technically, if they don't show a mol weight of 333.34 which is Thymalin, then it's Thymulin. From what I found, common vendor mislabel has mol weight 862-863(same as Thymulin)

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              @WisGal64 333.34 is the molecular weight of Thymogen, which is a principal component of Thymalin, but not the only. Thymalin shows multiple peaks oh MS chart

              attentiion is all you need

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              • WisGal64W WisGal64

                So technically, if they don't show a mol weight of 333.34 which is Thymalin, then it's Thymulin. From what I found, common vendor mislabel has mol weight 862-863(same as Thymulin)

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                @WisGal64 Look at Vladonix Mass Spectrometry in COA. Or Thymusol Mass Spectrometry.

                attentiion is all you need

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                  On MS charts this is what you expect to see for bioregulators:

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                  attentiion is all you need

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                    Thanks for the info!

                    “Not a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                    • P PeptideEd

                      @vpeptides Yeah... amusingly the scans they used for the thymus do not appear to be available generally... so I can't even do before and after measurements to try to do my own n=1 meaningfully 😞

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                      @PeptideEd have you watched Dr Fahy interview with Matt Kaeberlein? He looks pretty good for his 75. HGH for thymus regeneration, he claims. I know he also takes 1-2g of Carnosine dipeptide (I do too).

                      attentiion is all you need

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                        Peptide Crafters carries Thymagen (sold out) and Thymalin.
                        I don't truly know the difference; this is just for FYI.

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