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The Full Stack [Everything That Has to Be Right Before Your Peptides Work]

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  • D diegoc

    @SpaceGhost

    Alright how do we get more energy in the gym and what workout split and routine worked for me.

    So i had the same problem….

    Skinny fat… I lost the weight and now i want muscle.

    So couple things is gym timing… early morning first day or afternoon night….

    This makes a difference and needs a different approach.

    So i did the afternoon workout, i never noticed because im not those type of complainers or make excuses, i thought it was normal. By the time i got to the gym i had 10k steps in, a fulls day work and you can say the battery was 1/4 way full.

    On a trip i had in Virginia, changed my whole workout because my wife had a tour in the afternoon.

    So morning workouts for me.

    Wake up, drink electrolytes, get morning light 10m and get ready for the gym.

    In my macros i have 1cup of fairlife milk, i mix 1/2 scoop grass fed protein powder, 2 shots of cuban coffee, and a drizzle of honey.

    Then 1 banana, 2 dates with some more honey, yes all within my macros.

    I let that settle a bit and then i do NO tabs, L-citruline or non stim preworkout, Metheyline blue gummy, and L-Carderine.

    Nothing that accelerates my heart just caffeine if your good with it.

    In the car I take 2oz of Beetjuice i buy in the farmers market and hatch down the NO tabs.

    Now the pump is insane, gives you strength to push more and you have the energy of a hunter looking to take down a lion.

    If you have a latter workout then I can help you structure your carbs for that pre workout.

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    Ok as for the gym split and type of workout…

    I do a 4x split. But I started on a 3x full body split, but if yoi want to see muscle gain then a 4x split is what worked for me. I will post my 16 week so you see the difference in muscles.

    The work out routine is

    Push- Chest , Triceps
    Pull- Back, Biceps, Shoulders
    Lower- Legs, Abs
    Full Upper-

    The method is Progressive Overload with Reverse Pyramid.

    I will post on how i do it..

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      Above was my experience also. Lost 100 pounds was down to 1200 to 1600 calories. Over last winter went off GLP at the same time of a hard training block. Went up to 3200. Which was too much. Settled at 2850. Used the extra calories to put on a bunch of muscle. This spring to cut I went down in phases. Never had to go below 2200. Lost 30 pounds.

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        IMG_4156.jpeg

        I will post my face since i will be doing a channel recording myself.

        This was 16 weeks with the same system of Progressive Overload and Reverse Pyramid

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        • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

          Under eating=no energy. If you want to go through a building phase you have to eat more. Don't struggle with it. Make a plan and execute. Eat more. Lift heavy. You would be surprised how many more calories a day you can add. You should be cycling. After a long cut you want to refeed. Set a high protein goal. Minimal fat the rest carbs. For me that's vegetables, fruit, rice and potatoes. If you time your carbs around your workouts you will burn most of it anyway. You got this.

          Mots -C helps too. Lol

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          @Mydogdaryl423 Thats exactly it.

          You cant go from 30% BF to 8% on a big cut and expect to gain lots of muscle.

          Yes you can recomp but you need a reverse and that’s exactly what I was on all summer, break, recomp, raising calories, getting everything in the green. Sleep, Recovery and calories up.

          At that point you can gain muscle and not really be im a lean bulk your just filling in your muscles again.

          Calories will give you energy and having the energy, gives you the strength to push more, giving the muscles mechanical tension and then it grows.

          If you dont push hard the muscles wont grow, just maintain.

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          • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

            Under eating=no energy. If you want to go through a building phase you have to eat more. Don't struggle with it. Make a plan and execute. Eat more. Lift heavy. You would be surprised how many more calories a day you can add. You should be cycling. After a long cut you want to refeed. Set a high protein goal. Minimal fat the rest carbs. For me that's vegetables, fruit, rice and potatoes. If you time your carbs around your workouts you will burn most of it anyway. You got this.

            Mots -C helps too. Lol

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            @Mydogdaryl423 MotsC is a workhorse.

            The way i do it might seem weird but i do what works for me and to what I tested.

            So i did my SS-31 protocol in the Peptide Critic thread, the whole 1gram.

            What i do now is 10mg of MotsC and 10mg of Ss-31 per week split in 3x a week

            Here comes the crazy part.

            I do my SS-31 on my Gym Days- Im repairing the mitochondria.

            On my off gym days I do cardio or walk I do my Mots-C ATP energy, not muscle building.

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            • S STATIEEIGHT

              @SpaceGhost
              What you’ll notice (and you have to test sugars at OCD levels or have a CGM) is that once you really have it under control- a lot of things that used to spike you either won’t at all anymore or even if they do - not by anywhere near as much.

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              @STATIEEIGHT I controlled my insulin with digestive walks, thats your best friend.

              10-15m after every meal and check your CGM and see what it does

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                @SpaceGhost
                What you’ll notice (and you have to test sugars at OCD levels or have a CGM) is that once you really have it under control- a lot of things that used to spike you either won’t at all anymore or even if they do - not by anywhere near as much.

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                @STATIEEIGHT I use a cgm.

                @diegoc I noticed that while my blood sugar goes down during a walk, it tends to creep up towards where it was pre-walk.

                You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.

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                  @SpaceGhost ![alt text](image url)

                  What a lot of non diabetics (and a lot of diabetics and even Endos unfortunately) can’t get their heads around is that a healthy diet for a non diabetic IS NOT a healthy diabetic carbs/grains/rice etc are just a no - fuck that net carb shit - it’s bullshit.
                  Trick is that to replace carbs with fats - otherwise you’ll end up with no energy etc like you are.

                  This chick & this speech in particular changed my thinking on it entirely using it and a bit of a mix of a kero/carnivore Issa top diet along with a little bit of help from my best friend Reta - I was discharged a few months back as no longer diabetic (which is sorta bullshit but that’s another story) and my A1c is in the high 4’s nowadays.
                  That’s off all prescription meds entirely but still on the “non prescription”😉 ones.

                  The endos requested retesting on bloods because they didn’t believe they were accurate especially when I told them I had gone off all their meds.

                  But even you - 5.1 is pretty awesome for a T2👍

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=da1vvigy5tQ&feature=youtu.be

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                  STATIEEIGHT Good video. Still, nobody in the keto/carnivore space seems to have an answer for upping energy.

                  You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.

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                    STATIEEIGHT Good video. Still, nobody in the keto/carnivore space seems to have an answer for upping energy.

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                    @SpaceGhost Ketones bro

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                    • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

                      I thought that had to be a mistake. With all respect to @jtcjeff I would love to see you get these macros in order and see what you think about your energy in the gym.

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                      @Mydogdaryl423 Im with you man! I really have my fingers crossed with MOTS-C and hoping what Ive heard about its AMPK activation and glucose transport helps alot.

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                        It works and you dont need massive amounts .

                        Id start off slow to see if you have a histimine reaction and if you do 3mg IM 3x a week works like a charm

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                          @jtcjeff I agree with Diego. Start low. Then work up. Here is my experience. I take it half hour before the gym. What I have noticed is a difference in energy at the end of my sets. Allows me to squeeze out a couple extra reps.

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