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  • ResearchCatR Offline
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    ResearchCat
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    I pulled the trigger on 22 vials of SlimAssist and some Cell Factors. Don’t tell my wife!

    Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

    If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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    • ResearchCatR ResearchCat

      I pulled the trigger on 22 vials of SlimAssist and some Cell Factors. Don’t tell my wife!

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      @ResearchCat I won't if you don't tell mine.

      attentiion is all you need

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      • SpaceGhostS Offline
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        My wife hates that I take supplements, and is sure that they are what put me in the hospital and had to have my gallbladder removed. Just think how she would react to me injecting unregulated research chemicals from China into our beloved hamster!

        You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.

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          Lmao; I probably spend $300+ a month of various supplements. See my thread about it. A lot of it is probably a waste of money, but if it doesn’t hurt, it doesn’t hurt.

          WRT any product like this, the bare minimum baseline should be: just don’t kill your customers. We aren’t making children’s toys over here.

          Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

          If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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            I’m ready to start my SlimAssist course, but I’m reading conflicting reconstitution guidance above. One post says sterile water only, and each vial is a single dose, while another (from Jay) says BAC.

            I bought a dozen vials a few weeks ago on one of the (nearly daily) 50% off sales. My plan is 1mg a week to start, then titrate if I don’t die.

            So, BAC? Sterile water? Bourbon?

            You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.

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            • SpaceGhostS SpaceGhost

              I’m ready to start my SlimAssist course, but I’m reading conflicting reconstitution guidance above. One post says sterile water only, and each vial is a single dose, while another (from Jay) says BAC.

              I bought a dozen vials a few weeks ago on one of the (nearly daily) 50% off sales. My plan is 1mg a week to start, then titrate if I don’t die.

              So, BAC? Sterile water? Bourbon?

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              vpeps
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              #439

              @SpaceGhost BAC. Bourbon on a side. (Sterile water will work too if you use the whole vial at once.)

              attentiion is all you need

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              • SpaceGhostS SpaceGhost

                I’m ready to start my SlimAssist course, but I’m reading conflicting reconstitution guidance above. One post says sterile water only, and each vial is a single dose, while another (from Jay) says BAC.

                I bought a dozen vials a few weeks ago on one of the (nearly daily) 50% off sales. My plan is 1mg a week to start, then titrate if I don’t die.

                So, BAC? Sterile water? Bourbon?

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                @SpaceGhost Given that the add on to my purchase was bac water, I assume that is okay. For stuff like Cell Factors, it comes with a vial of the stuff they want you to use. Not 100% sure if you are supposed to use all of it or only as much as you want.

                Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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                • vpepsV Offline
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                  #441

                  @ResearchCat said:

                  Cell Factors

                  Only sterile water for this one. Use all of it at once. (nice link)

                  attentiion is all you need

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                  • vpepsV vpeps

                    @ResearchCat said:

                    Cell Factors

                    Only sterile water for this one. Use all of it at once. (nice link)

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                    #442

                    @vpep this is amazing! Thanks so much!

                    (I asked them to send me whatever they had on this stuff a while ago after someone here recommended I do so, and the rep denied that any such things existed.)

                    Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                    If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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                    • ResearchCatR ResearchCat

                      @vpep this is amazing! Thanks so much!

                      (I asked them to send me whatever they had on this stuff a while ago after someone here recommended I do so, and the rep denied that any such things existed.)

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                      vpeps
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                      #443

                      @ResearchCat I did the same, got the same reply, and then Jay sent me these links in the public email:
                      (multiple times, actually)

                      attentiion is all you need

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                      • vpepsV vpeps

                        @ResearchCat said:

                        Cell Factors

                        Only sterile water for this one. Use all of it at once. (nice link)

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                        @vpep said:

                        @ResearchCat said:

                        Cell Factors

                        Only sterile water for this one. Use all of it at once. (nice link)

                        Have you guys noticed any benefits with Cell Factors?

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                        • D denti

                          @vpep said:

                          @ResearchCat said:

                          Cell Factors

                          Only sterile water for this one. Use all of it at once. (nice link)

                          Have you guys noticed any benefits with Cell Factors?

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                          Stones67
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                          @denti
                          Sadly- no. Tried the standard dose and then followed that with a 'Max' 6 weeks later. Nada. I have labs Sat. morning. Unless I see something interesting in those results that particular product won't be on my wish list in the future.😢

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                          • D denti

                            @vpep said:

                            @ResearchCat said:

                            Cell Factors

                            Only sterile water for this one. Use all of it at once. (nice link)

                            Have you guys noticed any benefits with Cell Factors?

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                            vpeps
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                            @denti I didn't try it. That's only needed for older people or if you have an injury to heal.

                            attentiion is all you need

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                              This is 83% a joke, but is BLL a cult? Since placing my order 2 days ago, I have received no fewer than 15 emails and 6 texts - and I didn’t even sign up for texts. 😉

                              If I stop posting, please find the compound and come save me before they turn me into Cell Factors.

                              Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                              If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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                                I got more of SlimAssist recently, and the powder is pink. The batch from the last month was white. The same expiration date, the vials look different. I understand vitamin B may be pink, but why the previous batch wasn't so?

                                Update: I asked them about it, their answer:

                                The difference in color is related to the vitamin B12 in the formulation. In our newer batches 
                                of Slim Assist, the amount of vitamin B12 was increased. B12 contributes the red/pink hue, 
                                which is why newer batches may appear noticeably more pink or red compared with previous 
                                batches.
                                

                                attentiion is all you need

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                                • ResearchCatR ResearchCat

                                  This is 83% a joke, but is BLL a cult? Since placing my order 2 days ago, I have received no fewer than 15 emails and 6 texts - and I didn’t even sign up for texts. 😉

                                  If I stop posting, please find the compound and come save me before they turn me into Cell Factors.

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                                  jamesboyles
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                                  @ResearchCat I know how you feel, but at the same time I'm slightly terrified. If the texts and emails stop, that might mean there's no more sales. If there's no more sales, I'm definitely not affording much of anything from BLL anymore. 😂😭

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                                  • vpepsV vpeps

                                    I got more of SlimAssist recently, and the powder is pink. The batch from the last month was white. The same expiration date, the vials look different. I understand vitamin B may be pink, but why the previous batch wasn't so?

                                    Update: I asked them about it, their answer:

                                    The difference in color is related to the vitamin B12 in the formulation. In our newer batches 
                                    of Slim Assist, the amount of vitamin B12 was increased. B12 contributes the red/pink hue, 
                                    which is why newer batches may appear noticeably more pink or red compared with previous 
                                    batches.
                                    
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                                    jamesboyles
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                                    @vpep My vials were pinkish too. It might be the B vitamin complex they use?

                                    I also recently used a vial of FLGR 242 that didn't seem to have the usual amount of vacuum on it. I think it had a little bit, but when I pierced the top of it, didn't seem like there was the usual amount. I used it Thursday morning. Everything seems fine. Just something I noticed.

                                    Normally they're really pretty good about this stuff, I think. I haven't heard a lot of complaints.

                                    I'd still like to know what's up with how they create their a-Klotho product, based on that video I saw. Maybe that video that I referenced earlier had somebody saying something that was way off, but supposedly the guy's a specialist in industrial chemical process design. He says Klotho is too large to really manufacture the way that a typical peptide is and that the process to actually manufacture it would be prohibitively expensive. It got me really curious to know how they're doing it and what exactly is going around out there as Klotho anyway. I'm giving BLL the benefit of the doubt right now, but man, if anybody has any answers to that, I am so freaking curious.

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                                      @vpep My vials were pinkish too. It might be the B vitamin complex they use?

                                      I also recently used a vial of FLGR 242 that didn't seem to have the usual amount of vacuum on it. I think it had a little bit, but when I pierced the top of it, didn't seem like there was the usual amount. I used it Thursday morning. Everything seems fine. Just something I noticed.

                                      Normally they're really pretty good about this stuff, I think. I haven't heard a lot of complaints.

                                      I'd still like to know what's up with how they create their a-Klotho product, based on that video I saw. Maybe that video that I referenced earlier had somebody saying something that was way off, but supposedly the guy's a specialist in industrial chemical process design. He says Klotho is too large to really manufacture the way that a typical peptide is and that the process to actually manufacture it would be prohibitively expensive. It got me really curious to know how they're doing it and what exactly is going around out there as Klotho anyway. I'm giving BLL the benefit of the doubt right now, but man, if anybody has any answers to that, I am so freaking curious.

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                                      vpeps
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                                      @jamesboyles I don't notice vacuum with these their products, it must be inert gas filled.
                                      Klotho or other larger proteins are manufactured somehow and are for sale readily, they don't have to be manufactured exactly like smaller peptides. Also, I wouldn't say they are cheap either.

                                      BioLongevity Labs combines a truncated version of the native (natural) a-Klotho (1,012 aminoacids) with a proprietary 29-amino acid albumin-binding construct.

                                      attentiion is all you need

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                                        My SLIMassist were pink too.

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                                        • M mole

                                          @PeptidePete P1 here - love ALL good info here - Pete, sure value what you say, have a question I couldn't find answered. I'm 63 recently lost 70lbs on Terzepatide and learned how to eat right. Gained 15 lbs muscle (waist still same, don't see any fat added at all) - and take in 150grams/day of Whey Protein. Can't stomach Roe at all. No way. Uhuh can't do it. Or, yet - never say never. Why isn't Whey protein spoken about here? If what I've read/found out/heard Toro Poopoo?

                                          Thanks much in advance.

                                          Oh - into 3rd week of FLGR242 - Calisthenics 3 days with leg workout a little, Weights 3 days and take 1mg 242 30 minutes before weights 3x/week. Plan on being on it for months - thx all for the JayC code, and I am/will wait for sales.

                                          Peace to all AND thanks to all for sharing. I HATE youtube/sales sh*t.

                                          Almost forgot - 6' and 195lbs. AND have vascularity again - been over 30 years!!!

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                                          @mole said:

                                          @PeptidePete P1 here - love ALL good info here - Pete, sure value what you say, have a question I couldn't find answered. Can't stomach Roe at all. No way. Uhuh can't do it. Or, yet - never say never. Why isn't Whey protein spoken about here? If what I've read/found out/heard Toro Poopoo?

                                          Almost forgot - 6' and 195lbs. AND have vascularity again - been over 30 years!!!

                                          Hey Mr. Mole! Wow, so awesome, thank you for your kind comments. Your journey sounds great!

                                          I do not, nor would I ever use whey protein. Research bioavailability they are ALL grossly sub-optimal, ignore marketing BS!

                                          If you want a drinkable, liquid, protein to use on low protein/fasting days I can suggest only ONE: Jaquish Biomedical Fortagen. Tastes terrible, proven to get the job done. John Jaquish is a GOAT, I totally respect him.

                                          For solid protein- beef, goat, sheep are #1 best options as rich with healthy fats. Any animal NOT monogastic. Also of course soy-free/corn-free fed chick eggs. Salmon/cod/haddock are best fish. Quality farmed is OK!

                                          To amplify your waist size comment- after I fixed everything, lost the fats, I wound up at 152lbs and wearing 31" waist pants. I'm now averaging 174lbs (FLGR baby!) AND...wearing the same 31" pants! THAT is body recomposition at it's finest and exactly what I sought.

                                          Side note- I have now researched ATX-304/O-304 several times, for weeks at a time, at doses up to 600mg/day. I like it, a lot. But the full 600mg give me some weird feelings in chest and pulse when going to bed so backed it down a bit. Been using Umbrella Labs 100mg caps but have the brand new Kimera Chems Na/Salt version coming. Na is the actual version used in the human trials and the free-acid version everyone other than Kimera sells is not nearly as readily absorbed. Freebie comment that no one asked for...lol 🙂

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